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UTILITIES, $872,000

Admiral HULL. The third line item is for the addition of station utilities at the estimated cost of $872,000. This line item will provide adequate electrical power, water pressure, sanitary sewer pumping stations, storm sewer, steam, and street lighting at the areas lacking these utilities. Since 1958 numerous items of training equipment have been installed in school structures and 25 major structures have been constructed at this base. The new equipment and new facilities have loaded portions of the existing utility systems in excess of their designed capacities. Additional facilities planned for future years will result in further overloading.

The water storage capacity and pressure are insufficient for operation of fire sprinkler systems. Existing sewage pumps and treatment plants are overloaded by increased storm water runoff because of new construction of streets and paved parking areas.


The next project is at the Naval Station, Newport, R.I. It consists of four line items for $2,112,000.


The first line item is for construction of a collimating facility at the estimated cost of $87,000. A guided missile radar collimating facility is required to support the guided missile destroyers home-ported at Newport in calibrating or collimating, testing, and checking the guidance equipment of their missile systems. This proposed line item will provide for the construction of a steel tower to support the reflector targets and electronic equipment used during calibration and testing. The provision of this facility at Newport will eliminate the need for guided missile destroyers to transit to Boston to obtain these essential radar and battery alinement services. Senator INoUYE. Was this item not authorized last year, and, if so, why are you requesting reauthorization? Admiral HULL. It was authorized and funded last year, sir. We had to withdraw the funds for a section 203, emergency project programing. The next three line items are all repetitive items, a WAVES baro bachelor officer quarters, and a commissioned officers mess CIOSe Senator INoUYE. For the record, Admiral, can you provide for us the minimum standards adopted by the Navy relating to gross square footage per WAVE, per enlisted man, officer, and other minimum requirements for barracks? Admiral HULL. Sir, the maximum square footage for the WAVES is 140 square feet. Briefly, we have recommended that the gross building area for enlisted men be increased from 125 square feet to an average of 185 square feet and from 140 to 200 square feet for women. We have also recommended that private and semiprivate bedrooms with adjoining heads be provided for our enlisted personnel, instead of open bay dormitories and gang-type heads. These bedrooms will provide from

122 to 195 square feet of living area as compared to the present 72 square feet limit. We have estimated that it will be necessary to increase the statutory limitation from $1,850 to $3,450 per man to provide this improved habitability for our enlisted personnel. When you consider that the $1,850 limitation, which was established in 1956 should be escalated to $2,494 based on the current cost index, this is not an excessive increase. We have been working with Army and Air Force representatives to apprise QSD of the need for revising the administrative and statutory limitations. Admiral CoRRADI. Unfortunately, the Department of Defense prescribes maximum limits but not a minimum, and we also have a maximum limitation on the dollars that can be spent per person. Consequently, we make up the design to come within the maximum allowed in the case of WAVES, at $1,850 per WAVE, and we seldom achieve the 140 square feet per person which is allowed. Senator INoUYE. You have no minimum health standards? Admiral CoRRADI. We do have a minimum based on health standards, yes, sir. This is 50 Square feet minimum net sleeping area, but primarily we design to get as close to the 140-square-foot gross building area in the case of the WAVES or the 125-square-foot gross building area in the case of the enlisted man, as we can get with the $1,850 limit that we may spend. jor INoUYE. And are these standards required all over the WOTIOls Admiral CoRRADI. Yes, sir; without variation as to area cost variations except in oversea areas. This is a subject, Mr. Chairman, which is currently under review. We have made a rather exhaustive study of what we think our enlisted personnel need in the way of space, and this is now being examined by the Secretary of Defense with a special study group. We hope that before we come before the committee again we will have revised standards. Senator INoUYE. Admiral and gentlemen, I notice that the hour of 12:30 has arrived. Can you be back here at 2:30 to resume the testimony? Admiral HULL. Yes, sir. Senator INoUYE. Thank you very much. (Whereupon, at 12:30 p.m., the committee recessed, to reconvene at 2:30 p.m. the same day.)


Senator INOUYE. The Chair notes that 2:30 has arrived.
Admiral, shall we proceed?



Admiral HULL. Yes, sir; I believe we had just finished Newport, Mr. Chairman, and if there were no more questions on Newport, I will proceed with the Naval Station, Norfolk, Va.

Senator INoUYE. Please proceed, Admiral.

Admiral HULL. Three line items at a total cost of $2,133,000.


The first line item is for removal of an existing finger pier to provide mooring improvements at the estimated cost of $50,000. The critical pier space requirements make it mandatory that ship berthing facilities be utilized to the fullest extent possible.

Pier 7, which is 1,350 feet long, is used for the berthing of deep-draft cruisers, support aircraft carriers, command ships and amphibious ships. However, berthing at the north inshore side of the pier is restricted by the location of a service craft pier 270 feet long running parallel to and only 192 feet from pier 7. This short finger pier is in excess of present and foreseeable service craft berthing requirementS.

The proposed improvements provide for removal of the existing finger pier, thereby leaving adequate space for the nesting of ships on that side of pier 7.


The second line item is for the improvement and extension of utilities on piers 5 and 7, at the estimated cost of $1 million. It is essential that active fleet ships, when in port between operational periods, shut down their engineering plants. This permits the performance of maintenance and minor repairs on shipboard machinery by ships forces. This procedure extends the life of the ships' expensive equipment, including the cores for nuclear-powered ships, and increases the time that ships are available for operational use. In order that the ships may shut down their machinery, the berthing piers must have the capability of delivering the utilities essential to operation of the ships while in port.

This item will provide for increasing the capacity of the electrical power by 3,000 kilovolt-amperes for each pier with associated electrical outlets for each of the two piers. It will also include provision of steam and telephone utilities.

Senator INoUYE. Admiral, was not this item authorized last year?

Admiral HULL. I do not believe so, sir, no.

Admiral Corradi tells me that in a previous year we did have a similar line item for another pier but not for piers 5 and 7.

Senator INou YE. And these utilities are not currently available at the piers?

Admiral HULL. They are not, sir.

This item provides for increasing the capacity of the electric power by 3,000 kilovolt-amperes for each pier with electrical outlets for each of the two piers. It will also include provision of steam and telephone utilities.

Senator INoUYE. Shall we proceed, sir?

Admiral HULL. Yes, sir.


The third line item is for the construction of a permanent multipurpose building, at the estimated cost of $1,083,000. The fleet post office, fleet motion picture exchange, and the district training aids office are in a wooden building constructed in 1941 as a messhall. The efficiency of the port services department is impaired because of the inadequacy of the temporary spaces it occupies. The same conditions prevail for the existing post office. Postal inspectors have informed the Navy that unless we soon provide adequate facilities at Norfolk, we must reasonably expect to lose the services of the postal department which handles mail for the personnel on the 179 home-ported ships and for the shore-based personnel. This item will provide for the construction of a permanent twostory building designed for a future third floor. The first floor will be used by the fleet post office. The second floor will be used by the remaining previously listed activities. In addition, a six-story harbor control tower will be installed on the roof, fitted with visual and voice communication equipment for the control of ships in the harbor. Included within the scope of this item is the demolition of six dilapidated buildings now being used by the aforementioned activities. Senator INoUYE. The size of the post office, you rather obviously need it, will allow for what other activities here? Admiral HULL. We have the fleet motion picture exchange. This is a library of motion pictures. The ships when they come into port turn in all their movie film to this exchange and then when they go to sea again, they draw out additional ones. Senator INoUYE. This is for the whole Atlantic area? Admiral HULL. Just for the ships based in Norfolk, sir. The District training aids office, an office which has also a considerable amount of film, and other training devices, and the port services department, which provides such services as handling crews and arranging for the various other services the ships require when they come into port. Senator INoUYE. Thank you very much.


Admiral HULL. The next project is for the Naval Station, Pearl Harbor, Oahu, Hawaii. It consists of two line items at the total cost of $670,000.


The first line item is for alterations to the existing Fleet Intelligence Center, Pacific (FICPAC), at the estimated cost of $144,000. This item is included in DOD program VII for general support.

The building now occupied by Ficpac was originally constructed in 1940 as a warehouse. From the time it was first used as the intelligence center in 1959, it has been very unsatisfactory for intelligence production. It lacks a briefing room and other required spaces, air conditioning, and necessary security features. However, it has been continued in use because it has been needed and it has been serving its purpose, albeit inadequately. With the enormous increase over the past several years in the amount of intelligence data to be processed for the fleet and the shore activities, the first floor must be modified to allow for effective production and for a projected personnel increase.

The construction of new partitions on the first floor will provide a briefing room, offices, projection room, storage and berthing area for duty personnel. In addition, adequate lighting and an incinerator for burning classified material will be installed. These improvements will lead to increased production and more effective security COntrol. P ionotor INoUYE. Was not this item requested last year for Barbers Ointo Admiral HULL. Yes, sir; it was. It was not authorized last year. Senator INoUYE. And it is now proposed for Pearl Harbor. What is the reason for the change of location? Admiral HULL. Can you answer that, Commander Irwin' Commander IRwin. It was an administrative decision. Admiral HULL. I beg your pardon, sir; it was under Barbers Point last year but was physically located at Ford Island. The location is the same as last year. The sponsorship of this program has changed, and that is why, although last year it appeared under Barbers Point, this year it appears under the naval station. The physical location of the building is the same in both years. Senator INou YE. Where is the existing facility now located? Admiral HULL. It is on Ford Island, sir. Senator INoUYE. So it is the same thing, just the sponsoring agency is changed? Admiral HULL. Yes, sir. Last year it was under the sponsorship of the air station at Barbers Point. This year it is under the sponsorship of the Naval Station, Pearl Harbor. Senator INoUYE. Is there any reason for the change in Sponsor

ship 2 Timiral HULL. This is a result of our reorganization. I will ask Admiral Corradi to explain this since I am not thoroughly familiar with it. Admiral CoRRADI. This particular facility was under the support of the Bureau of Naval Weapons. Then, when certain support functions within the Navy were realined due to the reorganization of the Navy, the field support activity, a new command, was established, and this activity became a part of the naval station under the field support activity. It is now under a different command, although it is exactly the same building, performing the same function. Senator INoUYE. Then actually it is the same place? Admiral CoRRADI. Yes, sir. Senator INoUYE. Thank you very much, Admiral. Admiral HULL. The next line item is the barracks, which is a repetitive item.


BERTH S-21, $271,000

This also is repetitive. Senator INoUYE. Before we go on, why do these ballistic missile submarines require a different-type berth than nuclear submarines? Admiral HULL. They do not, sir. Both the ballistic missile submarines and the nuclear submarines are deeper draft. The conventional submarines can go alongside the pier now. It is the nuclear submarine and the POLARIS submarines which require the dredging. They also require greater electrical power. Senator INoUYE. Thank you.

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