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Colonel FENLoN. Page 246, Fort Fisher Air Force Station located 19 miles northeast of Wilmington, N.C. There is one item here, a repetitive item, alteration of an existing airman dormitory to provide adequate quarters.

Senator STENNIS. $30,000.

Colonel FENLON. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIs. All right, next item.


Colonel FENLON. Page 248, Roanoke Rapids Air Force Station located 3 miles south of Roanoke Rapids, N.C. There is one item, a repetitive item. This is the installation of air conditioning in four existing airman dormitories.

Senator STENNIS. How much?

Colonel FENLON. For a total of $19,000.

Senator STENNIs. All right, proceed to page 250.


Colonel FENLON. Yes, sir. Senator STENNIS. Sewage treatment disposal. Colonel FENLoN. Yes, sir; this is Saulte Ste. Marie Air Force Station, Mich., located 3 miles southeast of Saulte Ste. Marie. The program includes one item providing for sanitary sewage disposal system. The existing system is inadequate and poses a health hazard to personnel at this station. Senator STENNIS. That is your radar Squadron out there? Colonel FENLON. Yes, sir. Senator STENNIS. All right, I think you have covered book No. 3. How much more do we have? General CURTIN. Two more, Mr. Chairman. Colonel FENLON. Volume IV and then the classified volumes. Senator STENNIs. All right, gentlemen. Do you gentlemen have any points you want to make before we close? General CURTIN. No, sir, Mr. Chairman. Senator STENNIS. I am uncertain, gentlemen, whether or not we can meet tomorrow. I hope so. Perhaps if we get an early start in the morning we can finish up. Do you think that is possible? General CURTIN. It could be, sir. Senator STENNIS. We could not meet this afternoon. We have other matters that have come up. I thank you very much for coming this morning. We will let you know later this afternoon whether we will meet tomorrow. Thank you very much. (Whereupon, at 12:55 p.m., a recess was taken until the following day, Friday, April 30, 1965, at 10 a.m.)


YEAR 1966

FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1965

CoMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES, AND SUBCOMMITTEE on MILITARY CONSTRUCTION OF THE CoMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONs, Washington, D.C. The Committee on Armed Services and the Subcommittee on Military Construction of the Committee on Appropriations met jointly, pursuant to recess, at 10:05 a.m. in room 212, Old Senate Office Building. Present: Senators Stennis (presiding), Cannon, Inouye, Saltonstall, and Thurmond. Of the staff of the Committee on Armed Services: Gordon A. Nease, professional staff member and Charles B. Kirbow, chief clerk. Of the staff of the Committee on Appropriations: Worley M. Rexroad and Joseph Borda, professional staff members. Senator STENNIS. The committee will please come to order. Gentlemen, we will continue until around 12:30 if that is agreeable to the committee, and we may reconvene at such hour as you gentlemen may set for an afternoon session. I will have to leave at about 11:30 or 11:45 and it will not be possible for me to be here this afternoon. Senator Cannon will preside. General, do you have some major items that you want to take up before we continue the line items? We will not take up the housing because we have a special hearing on housing. I understand that the big items will be in the classified section. Let us proceed in the regular way.


General CURTIN. All right, Mr. Chairman.
Senator STENNIs. You are starting now on book 4.



General CURTIN. Yes, sir. We finished volume 3 yesterday, Mr. Chairman. We are starting on book 4 this morning.

Colonel FENLoN. We are starting with the Air Defense Command

overseas, these are aircraft control and warning systems.

The first base is on page 2, Saglek Air Station in Canada is a pine tree site which is located 400 miles northwest of Goose Airbase. The first item is a repetitive item for the construction of a heated storage facility for vehicles located near the runway and required to keep the airstrip open during the frequent low temperatures, high winds, and severe snow storms. Senator STENNIs. That is a $145,000 item. Colonel FENLON. That is correct, Mr. Chairman. Senator STENNIS. Was that denied in 1965? Colonel FENLoN. Mr. Chairman, if I may, the item I believe that we were denied in 1965 is the second item. It is a similar item. It is heated storage but it is at the B/MEW site. Senator STENNIs. That is $126,000. Colonel FENLoN. Yes, sir. Senator STENNIs. All right. Give us a description of this third one. Colonel FENLoN. The third item is a repetitive item, sir. It is construction of a composite personnel facility to provide suitable living space for 23 men stationed in the vicinity of the runway on a year-round basis. The operating equipment is necessary to keep the runway operational at all times. Senator STENNIs. What about this BMEWS” How long are you going to use it? What is its status? We are going to take care of those men out there but there is no use spending a lot of money up there for an item that we are not going to use. Colonel FENLoN. Yes, sir. The BMEWS is programed for existence through this programing period, and indefinitely to my knowledge. Senator STEN IIs. It is not one of those systems that you are going to have a substitute for? General CURTIN. No indication of that, Mr. Chairman. Senator STENNIs. All right. BMEWS is what? Colonel FENLoN. Ballistic missile detection. Senator STENNIs. I was thinking of another system. All right, Senator Inouye. Senator INouy E. Is it not true you are closing up the Pacific BMEWS system? In fact we had that announcement not too long

O. Colonel Gony E. Colonel Gonye from Aerospace programs. Senator, you may be referring to the extension that we had out there with ships, that the Navy had. Senator INouy E. Yes. Colonel Gony E. Yes, that is being discontinued. Senator STENNIs. What group is that? Colonel Gony E. These are picket ships that added an extension on to the DEW line, sir. This is a different type of thing. BMEWS is a missile warning system. Senator STENNIs. That is right. This is a different thing. I was thinking about the same thing you were. That is the DEW line? Colonel FENLoN. Yes, sir. Senator STENNIs. Different altogether.


Colonel FENLoN. Our next base, page 6, Sondrestrom Air Force Base located 75 miles northeast of Holstenberg, Greenland, to provide support of the DEW line and the transmitter site located 11 miles from the base.

The first item is a repetitive item for alteration to a refueling vehicle shop to provide a mechanical exhaust system to remove exhaust fumes when we are operating vehicles. Senator STENNIS. Those items are not large but that raises a question that Senator Inouye raised. You are reducing the DEW line on . ol and building more of it on the other. How does that come about? Colonel Gony E. Sir, we would be hopeful that sometime in the future Sondrestrom could be returned to Denmark, and the Danes could support two of our sites. The two sites in question we plan to have in the program for the foreseeable future. These small items are to take care of the people we know are going to have to be there for the next 2 or 3 years at the very least. Senator STENNIS. All right, this is just a necessary housekeeping job, you might say?

Colonel FENLoN. Yes, sir. The second item was for an overhead electrical distribution system. Senator CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I note that in these two instances the cover sheet does not show the number of personnel that we have there. Is this classified?

Colonel FENLoN. Yes, sir.
Senator STENNIS. That brings us to page 9.


Colonel FENLoN. Stephenville Air Station in Canada, which is located 18 miles north of Ernest Harmon Airbase, the mission of this station is that of an A.C. & W. squadron and a communications station. We have one project. It is a repetitive item for construction of a water storage tank necessary to provide water supply for domestic use and fire protection. The existing system that we have is inadequate. Senator STENNIs. All right, I suppose that covers it unless someone has a special question. That brings you over to MATS.


Colonel FENLoN. Yes, sir; MATS overseas, and our first base is on page 12, Prestwick Airfield located in Scotland. Its program mission is an air base group and squadron plus an air rescue squadron. The program is for two items at a cost of $953,000. The first item is a repetitive item for a large maintenance dock to provide the necessary maintenance on transit and base aircraft. The second item is a repetitive item. It provides for a dispensary to replace the one now being used. The present dispensary is an old substandard structure on temporary loan from the British Air Ministry. Senator CANNoN. Mr. Chairman, on this maintenance dock, you have been using Prestwick for a long time. Do you not have sufficient docking facilities there for these aircraft? Colonel Wood. We have no facilities large enough to take the C-130 aircraft. The facilities we have there now are large enough for C-54's only. That is the largest aircraft they will accept.

Senator CANNoN. You arc using C-130's in there now. How do you take care of them? Colonel Wood. No, sir; we are not. The C-130's are being assigned there in fiscal 1966. Senator CANNoN. But I mean you have had them go through there on previous occasions. You mean you are permanently assigning them there, is that it? Colonel Wood. Yes, sir. This dock is primarily for the permanent assignment of the air recovery squadron of C-130's at this location. Senator CANNoN. And this is that new group of aircraft for air-sea rescue that we authorized before on the 130's? Colonel Wood. Yes, sir. Senator CANNoN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator STENNIs. Thank you.


Colonel FENLoN. Sir, our next base is page 15, Wake Island, located 1,500 miles east northeast of Guam. The mission is to support an air movement route. The first item is a classified item and we will discuss it if we may in volume 5. The second item is a repetitive item for air-conditioning of an airmen's dormitory and is essential to permit proper rest for transit flight crews through this station. The third item is a repetitive item for air-conditioning of officer's quarters, also essential to permit proper rest for crews while they are transiting this installation. The fourth item is a repetitive item under our utilities. It is an additional power generator necessary to increase the capability of a central powerplant to support other items in this program. Senator STENNIs. Except for your fuel bulk storage, these are not large sums of money. I thought we had you completed all storage needs on Wake Island in years past. General CURTIN. No, sir. There has been a comprehensive study for our fuel requirements in the Pacific area and you will find additional requirements for this program as we go through it. enator STENNIS. I remember a couple of years ago you told us that would finish up Wake then. You are sure you have to have this? General CURTIN. Yes, sir. This has been examined by the Department of Defense Petroleum Agency in detail, sir. Senator INouy E. Mr. Chairman, I have received a communication from some of the civilian employees on Wake Island advising me of the inadequacy of housing for civilian work personnel. May I have your comments on that? Major STURGEoN. Sir, were they referring to the officers' quarters? Senator INotry E. No, civilian work personnel. You do not have any under the Air Force? General CURTIN. No, sir. Colonel FENLoN. We show them in support, but they are not assigned to our units. General CURTIN. May we check that? We have heard nothing about this but I will be glad to check it for you and I will furnish it. Senator STENNIs. Please give the Senator a report on that, General. (The report referred to follows:)

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