General CURTIN. Yes, sir. Most of these you will find will have been constructed in 1941-42 time period and will be two-story frame construction, but we will furnish the detail for the record by base, sir. (The information referred to follows:) Dormitory replacements Command and base Air Defense Command: Hamilton Air Force Base. Air Force Systems Command: Brooks Air Force Base--- Mather Air Force Base__ Sheppard Air Force Base_ Williams Air Force Base. Air University: Gunter Air Force Base___ Military Air Transport Service: Scott Air Force Base- Davis-Monthan Air Force Base (TAC) Malmstrom Air Force Base__. March Air Force Base__ Turner Air Force Base_ Tactical Air Command: Langley Air Force Base.. MacDill Air Force Base.. Pacific Air Forces: Clark Air Base. Hickam Air Force Base. Year built 1941-42 1940 1942-44 1941 1941 1942 1940 1941-42 1951 1929 1941 1942 1940 1947 1941 NOTE. The 16th base, Wright-Patterson, was listed as a replacement in error. New dormitories are proposed for Wright-Patterson. Senator ELLENDER. I notice you have Scott Field here, replacements for MATS. Is that to take care of the aviators who operate our airplanes ? General CURTAIN. This will be for all base personnel. Not only the MATS Headquarters is there but there is also the Communications Service, a portion of the Air Weather Service, and other functions. It will be for the total base support. Senator ELLENDER. It is not only for dormitory then? General CURTIN. Well, it is dormitory replacement; yes, sir, but the occupants of these buildings could be from any one of the activities that are stationed at Scott Field. It is only shown under MATS here because MATS is the host for this particular base. Senator ELLENDER. I notice you have a third page. Senator STENNIS. There are quite a few. I see they have them listed on separate pages. Senator ELLENDER. Forty-nine projects on the third page, $24 million. General CURTIN. Going back to that Scott one, Mr. Chairman, we have the information here. There will be 12 buildings replaced by this particular replacement. This is just an example. These were built in 1940-41, and they are wood frame and will be disposed of on the completion of this project. Senator STENNIS. The advantage of this presentation as you are doing it, is to give us a complete picture of what you want in the way of airmen's dormitories, and then when we come to them individually, you can cover each a little more fully. This is a replacement for 12 buildings. You have your alterations on page 40, and you have some air conditioning items here. Do you want to especially cover those, the reasons you are asking for them, in addition to the obvious reasons? Mr. Colonel FENLON. The general reason, without any specific case, Chairman, would be comfort, of course, in the areas that are within criteria for air conditioning. In many cases, not necessarily all of them, we have shift people here who are living in these dorms and who have to sleep during the daylight hours when it is even warmer than possibly in the evenings. This becomes an additional require ment. Senator ELLENDER. Is this air conditioning to be done on a unit basis per room? Colonel FENLON. No, sir. Normally it would be central air conditioning. Senator ELLENDER. Central? Colonel FENLON. For the building. General CURTIN. You will also notice, Senator, the alteration listing at the top. The alteration listing at the top of page 40 is in line with this $1,000 a man rule of thumb that we previonsly mentioned. Senator STENNIS. The alterations. General CURTIN. Yes, sir. This is generally our rule of thumb. If it exceeds $1,000 per man and unless there is some overriding reason, we generally feel it is better to go ahead and build a replacement facility. Senator STENNIS. And the new construction is how much per man? General CURTIN. The new construction, the statutory limit to the 5-foot line is $1,850, but the total cost is about $2,000 to $2,100 average per man. Senator STENNIS. We still have the $1,850 though? General CURTIN. Yes, sir. Senator STENNIS. Beyond the 5-foot line? General CURTIN. No, sir; to the 5-foot line. Senator STENNIS. All right, if there is nothing more we can go to the next one, "Officers' quarters." OFFICERS' QUARTERS Colonel FENLON. Our next one, sir, is "Officers' quarters," again to provide onbase living for our bachelors officers. These requirements in the States are normally based on 15 percent of the assigned officer strength, making allowance for some transit and TDY personnel. We actually come up to a maximum gross living area of some 330 square feet for officers. We have three different types of BOQ's as we mentioned yesterday: the residential, the motel, and the high rise. The sort of layout that we have shown here is the motel type, and it could be very close to the high rise. Of course the manner in which we go depends a lot on the area and the land available as to the type of officers' quarters that we would build. We have some 53 projects, $21,241,000. Thirty-six of these are new or replacements. (The following information was subsequently furnished :) Officers' quarters provide on-base living accommodations for 15 percent of the permanently assigned bachelor officers and for transient personnel on official temporary duty on an installation. The design of the permanent officers' quarters provides a private bedroom, private bath, private or semiprivate living room, and in some instances, kitchen facilities. Design is based on a maximum gross living area of 330 square feet per officer. There are three basic designs utilized for officers' quarters, i.e., residential, motel, and high rise. 47-232-65-10 Senator STENNIS. I think you gave it yesterday but give us again your ceiling on these bachelor officers quarters; how much per unit? Colonel FENLON. $7,000 per man, sir. Senator STENNIS. How much under that ceiling do you operate? General CURTIN. Actually, Mr. Chairman, may I correct that. $8,500 as I recall is the statutory ceiling. The Department of Defense administratively has given us a target of $7,000 per man to work toward, and this we have found is a reasonably good working figure. Generally our residential type of officer quarters, which we discussed yesterday the four-man, four-bedroom, four-bed unit, we can get comfortably under the $7,000. The motel and high rise tends to push the $7,000 limit, and in cases we do have to go back to the Department of Defense to get a waiver to that $7,000 limit. Senator STENNIS. The motel type is more expensive than the fourroom layout? General CURTIN. Unless we have to buy the land. The highrise is generally the most expensive, the motel the middle, and the residential generally the lowest in cost. That has been our experience, provided we do not have to buy land. If we have to buy land this can distort the picture. Senator STENNIS. All right, any other questions, gentlemen, on this? The next item, gentlemen. DEPENDENT SCHOOLS Colonel FENLON. Next, sir, is dependent schools. We have 10 projects in here. Nine of them are additions, one is new. These are overseas only, and they are in keeping with our aims to assure dependent child education up to and meeting the State's accreditation standards. They are based on the actual enrollments and program and family housing. In the elementary schools, the 1 through 8, we provide up to 70 square feet per student. In the high school 110 square feet per student. As I say, these are of course all overseas. (The following information was subsequently furnished :) These facilities are constructed only at oversea installations not financed by the U.S. Commissioner of Education, Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, under the terms of Public Law 815, 81st Congress, as amended. Schools at oversea bases are required to assure that dependent children are properly educated to meet stateside accreditation standards. Where possible, elementary schools are centralized within proximity of dependent housing areas. High schools are centrally located and draw from a large area. Four of our high schools provide dormitories for children from remote areas. Requirements are based on actual school enrollments and programed family housing. Grades 1 through 8 are authorized 70 square feet per pupil, and high schools are authorized 110 square feet per pupil. Senator ELLENDER. How much of that expense is paid out of the allowance of the people abroad, that is the fathers of these children? Aren't they allowed so much under the law? General CURTIN. If they are military they do get a station allowance, but this is largely to take care of the increased cost of living and transportation and so on in the area. There are various factors that are provided in the survey sheets on this. I don't recall specifically whether any one of them relates to schools, but I don't believe so. Senator STENNIS. You had better look that up. Colonel FENLON. I can verify that. I am almost certain that school costs are not provided for in there, but I will verify that for the record, Mr. Chairman. (The following information was subsequently furnished:) Officers station allowances do not include provision for costs of education of school-age dependents. Senator ELLENDER. Does the Government provide for all of the facilities? Colonel FENLON. That is correct. Senator ELLENDER. And transportation of the children of our military men abroad? Colonel FENLON. That is correct, sir. General CURTIN. And this has been a matter of real deep concern to a lot of us as we go around and see some of these facilities. For example, I just came back from a trip to Japan. At Misawa in northern Japan the conditions were really unbelievable. Fortunately we did have a school for them in last year's program, and they are very happy now. It is getting under construction, and in a year or so they will be out of their very poor facility into an adequate one. It makes all the difference in the world in terms of the motivation of the student as well as the teacher. Senator ELLENDER. I was of the impression that the Army had a method somewhat like what we have with the State Department, that is for the children who go abroad because their fathers and mothers are with the Foreign Service. Senator STENNIS. Let me ask one question. I thought we had finished up this school building program, gentlemen. These seem to be all additions on page 46. Colonel FENLON. All but one, sir. |