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(AFTERNoon SEssIon, 2:15 P.M., TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 1965)
D.S. SENATE

OFFICEs of SECRETARY OF THE SENATE AND SERGEANT AT ARMS

STATEMENTS OF ROBERT BRENKWORTH, FINANCIAL CLERK, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE SENATE; AND WILLIAM S. CHEATHAM, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS, OFFICE OF THE SERGEANT AT ARMS

1966 BUDGET REQUEST

Senator MoMRONEY. This afternoon the committee will hear from Mr. Robert Brenkworth, the financial clerk of the Senate, and Mr. William Cheatham, representing the Sergeant at Arms. Glad to have you here.

You may proceed, Mr. Brenkworth.

Mr. BRENKworTH. The 1966 estimates submitted for the Senate. totaled $35,866,895 which is over the 1965 appropriations by $1,032,325.

PAY COST INCREASES

This, of course, does not include the Senate joint items which are in the bill as it passed the House of Representatives.

Thirteen appropriations have been increased in varying amounts totaling $1,089,795, as a full fiscal year revision necessary to cover the pay increase cost at maximum rates for a complete year.

As you know, the Salary Reform Act of 1964 contained certain salary limitations through December 31, 1964, and an effective date of noon, January 3, 1965 on the increase provided for Members.

The funds required for 1965 were therefore less than the amounts needed for 1966.

The major portion of this increase, $600,000, represents a restoration of a reduction of pay increase costs made by this committee in the 1965 Second Supplemental Act.

At the time of consideration of the second supplemental 9 full months of the current fiscal year had passed, and since the expenditure for that period were such that it appeared possible we could complete the full year with less than the amount requested for fiscal year 1965, the committee ordered a reduction of $500,000 in “Salaries, officers, and employees,” administrative and clerical assistants to Senators and an additional $100,000 in the appropriation “Inquiries and investigation.” This action was for 1965 only, and it is necessary that the funds. be restored for the full year 1966.

OFFICE of SERGEANT AT ARMs

The appropriation, salaries, officers and employees, “Office of the Sergeant at Arms,” has been increased by $8,550 Senator MoWRoNEY. Wait a minute. Here we are talking about the Sergeant at Arms Office? Mr. BRENKworth. This is an additional increase to make up a total increase of $1,098,345. - jotor MoWRONEY. $1,098,345 for the entire Senate establishment, right?

... Mr. BRENKWORTH. No, the increase over the 1965 estimates is $1,082,825. There are increases and decreases in the bill. Senator MONRONEY. That is for all the Senate, the whole Senate.

SALARIES, SENATORS

Senator MoWRONEY. OK. Where are those? How much is the increase for the Senators’ salaries? Mr. BRENKworTH. $408,725. Senator MONRONEY. That is for Senators only. Mr. BRENKwor'TH. Senators only. Senator MonroNEY. OK. Now the staff.

SALARIES, OFFICERs, AND EMPLOYEEs

Mr. BRENKworTH. We have increases in the appropriations, salaries, officers and employees Senator MonroNEY. Does that include the Senators’ staff, or does it include the committee staffs? Mr. BRENKworth. Senators’ staff, committee staff, all employees. Senator MoWRoNEY. Charmen and charwomen? . Mr. BRENKworth. Yes, sir; they are included in this category. Senator MONRONEY. I thought you divided some of that in the office of the Sergeant at Arms, - - -

ITEMIzATION or sALARIES

Mr. BRENKworth. These are the breakdowns within the appropriations, salaries, officers and employees. The total increase for salaries, officers and employees, $579,910. The itemization on this—$470 in the office of the Vice President, $5,985, Office of the Secretary, $8,030 for committee employees. -

Senator Mon RoNEY. How much?

Mr. BRENRworTH. $8,030.

Senator Mon RoNEY. For the committee employees?

Mr. BRENKworTH. That is right. It is the full fiscal year revision. This results from the fact that the maximum salary as provided by the pay act was not effective for these people until January 1, 1965. The amount requested for 1965 was less than the need for 1966, for that I'ê8SOI).

Senator MonroNEY. Yes. But I want the total amount of the committee employees and everything, and you give me an $8,030 figure.

SALARIES, CoMMITTEE EMPLOYEEs

Mr. BRENKworTH. This is the increase over the appropriation for 1965. The total figure for committee employees is $3,236,145. Senator MoWRoNEY. It only increased for the whole year $8,000? Mr. BRENKworTH. For this year as opposed to last year, yes, sir. The 1965 appropriation on this was $3,228,115. This is the regular appropriation plus the deficiency or supplemental we received for increased pay cost in the Second Supplemental Act. This is line No. 8, Senator. If you notice, the original appropriation was $2,731,965. We receive a supplemental appropriation to cover the 1965 cost of the pay act, $496,150. This gave us a total appropriation for 1965 of $3,228,115. - - -

Senator MonRONEY. The pay was active for the whole fiscal year; is that correct? MAXIMUMI SALARY

Mr. BRENKworTH. But not at the full rate, Senator. The limitation of $22,000 was imposed through December 31, 1964. Senator MonroNEY. $22,000? Mr. BRENKworTH. That is right. Now, the maximum salary is $22,945. That is for administrative assistants and top people on committee staffs. Senator MoWRONEY. We did not go as high as the House did. * BRENKworth. No, sir; the House went to $24,500, for committee Staff. Senator MonroNEY. So the difference, then, is additional money, $8,030—I do not quite understand how it is that low. Mr. BRENKworth. For 1965 the need was a half year at $22,000 and a half year at $22,945. The need for the current year will be a full year at $22,945. In the situation on committees— Senator ProxMIRE. That is the only difference—it is a difference for each position of how much? Mr. BRENKworTH. $470. Senator PROxMIRE. There are only two positions involved. Mr. BRENKworTH. Less than that, Senator. Senator MoWRONEY. I do not see how they were that small a number because— Mr. BRENKworTH. Only one can go to this figure, Senator—only one employee on the Senate committee can go to this figure. enator PROxMIRE. Many staffs did not pay it—most of them. Mr. BRENKworTH. Quite a few did not. The limitation is there. It can be paid. And the need is there. Senator MoMRONEY. OK. Mr. BRENKworTH. Now, this of course—

OFFICE OF VICE PRESIDENT

Senator MonroNEY. So you take care of all of the pay act—I mean with $470, to the Office of Vice President, increase—that is for the full year.

Mr. BRENKworTH. Yes.

CHAPLAIN

Senator MoWRONEY. Nothing for the Chaplain.
Mr. BRENKwoRTH. No; because his salary is—
Senator MonroNEY. We raised it last year.
Mr. BRENKworTH. That is right.

OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE SENATE

$ Senator MonroNEY. We take care of the Office of the Secretary with 5,985. Mr. BRENKworth. Yes, sir. Senator MoMRONEY. How many employees— Mr. BRENKworth. Well, that, represents the Secretary of the Senate—1965 was a half year at $22,000 and a half year at $27,500. This year it will be a full year at $27,500. There is $2,750 needed for that. Then there is the Chief Clerk and Parliamentarian who were on last year, for a half year, at $22,000, and a half year at $24,024.40. The assistant to the majority and the assistant to the minority and the financial clerk were on a half year at $22,000 and a half year at $22,808. That comes to $5,985 overall.

CONFERENCE MAJORITY AND MINORITY

Senator MONRONEY. We have the committee employees lined up. Conference majority—no change there.

Mr. BRENKworTH. No, sir.

Senator MoWRONEY. Minority, no change. Clerical assistance to Senators, administrative and clerical assistance. That was for the top executive for half a year?

COMMITTEE REDUCTION AND SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST, 1965

Mr. BRENKworth. That represents $47,250. The additional $500,000, which is the area I was getting into, is the reduction made by this committee last year and the supplemental request for 1965. It was a reduction based on the fact that we had 9 months of the year behind us, knew that we were not utilizing all of the funds, and could make that reduction on a 1-year basis. Senator MonroNEY. In other words, we appropriate—you usually ask for more money, and we usually appropriate more money than the Senators claim, because they never reach the maximum allowable payroll. Mr. BRENKworTH. That is right. Senator MoMRONEY. So there was that much left, so we were able to use that without getting a deficiency. Mr. BRENKworTH. That is correct, sir. Senator MoRRoNEY. I remember that.

LONGEVITY COMPENSATION AND AGENCY CONTRIBUTIONS

Mr. BRENKworTH. The situation here is that we appropriate on the basis of a schedule which tries to establish a mean for each of the allowances. At the time this was computed, we were utilizing 88 percent of the total allowable. This is based on 100 percent use to provide the funds that would be necessary if the entire allowance was used. This does not happen. There are usually balances here. And this committee in the past has ordered that we absorb longevity compensation and agency contributions in this appropriation. The current absorption of these two items annually is running at about $1,260,000. This is being absorbed mainly from the funds not used or allowances not used by Senators for administrative and clerical assistance. : Senator PROxMIRE. So the committee could not very well cut back that amount to recognize the actual fact that 100 Senators never do use their full clerk hire. Mr. BRENKworTH. No, sir. Senator PROxMIRE. If we did, we would keep you from using it for other purposes you have to use it for. Mr. BRENKworTH. That is correct, absolutely. Senator SALTONSTALL. It could be taken care of in a supplemental, as we did last year.

Mr. BRENKworTH. Yes, sir. -

Senator MoWRONEY. All right. So that is a half million dollars added amount for the full pay, which is only a half year last year.

Mr. BRENRworTH. That is right.

Senator MoWRONEY. All right.

OFFICE OF SERGEANT AT ARMS

Office of Sergeant at Arms, $11,300 increase. What is that for?

Mr. BRENKworTH. This increase is the result of two actions. The first is the full fiscal year revision on the pay bill. And in this area, we have the Sergeant at Arms, whose salary was a half year at $22,000 and a half year at $27,500, and this is plus $2,750 for that.

POLICE OFFICERS

In the last legislative bill we had a provision revising the salaries of certain police officers and repealing a certain longevity law that was placed in effect many years ago, superseding it by our new longevity. This called for a revision of salaries of sergeants, lieutenants, and special police officers effective September 1 for a full fiscal year need of $8,550. Now, this is not entirely an expenditure request, since about $6,500 of this was being paid already in longevity compensation. It is merely a transfer of this $6,500 from nonappropriated or absorbed longevity compensations to appropriated position compensation. This was done by the House, and at their request in order to provide a good promotional scale for the officers being promoted from privates to sergeants to lieutenants, special officers, on up the line, and to apply the new longevity which became effective for everyone recently instead of the large one-step longevity that was previously in effect. The old longevity was repealed at that time. The combination of those two items makes the $11,300 increase.

OFFICE OF SECRETARY OF MAJORITY AND MINORITY

Senator MonroNEY. Then you have the Office of the Secretary of the Majority and Minority at $2,020 increase.

Mr. BRENKworTH. Yes, sir. This is for the Secretaries themselves, each of them being paid a half year at $22,000 and a half year at $24,024.40, as opposed to the full year of $24,024.40.

OFFICIAT, REPORTERS OF DEBATES

Senator MoWRoNEY. Official reporters of debates. We raised the salaries of the reporters. Mr. BRENKworT.H. No, sir. This $4,855 represents pay costs again for a full year. The two reporters, the two official reporters Senator MoWRoNEY. There was a pay raise in there. Mr. BRENR worth. Oh, yes, sir. It was the regular pay bill. Senator MoWRoNEY. This is the other half year of that. Mr. BRENR worth. That is right. Senator MonroNEY. All right. So that brings the total salaries, officers and employees of the Senate, up to $579,910. Mr. BRENRworth. An increase of that amount to an estimate of $23,793,810, overall.

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