"Resolved, That during the remainder of this session, no Deputy shall speak on any subject more than once, nor more than fifteen minutes at any one time, except by leave of the House expressly given."

I think, sir, that will facilitate our business. We are now approaching the close of the third week of the session, which is the ordinary limit of our meeting.

The PRESIDENT. There is another matter now before the House. The resolution may be allowed to go on the Calendar.

Rev. Dr. FULTON, of Alabama. The Reverend Deputy from Texas has to-day brought before us a matter of vast magnitude. It is now many years since the hearts of this Convention were first turned by the trumpet tones of his voice calling to our notice the needs of a vast region that the Church would relax her hold, which is there almost upon the throat of the Church, and enable here to go forward in her appointed work, conquering and to conquer

The PRESIDENT. The gentleman will please recollect that the question has changed its aspect since the Deputy from Texas made his speech. The report of the Committee on Constitutional Amendments is now the simple matter before the House.

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Rev. Dr. FULTON, of Alabama. ject of the motion, Mr. President, is what? The PRESIDENT. To discharge the Committee from the consideration of the subject.

Rev. Dr. FULTON, of Alabama. I yield at once with the hope that I may get the floor presently. Mr. COMSTOCK, of Central New York. I beg leave to make a motion to facilitate business. move in connection with that special report of the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution, the report which purposes to give relief to Texas on the principles therein indicated, that the message of the House of Bishops No. 34 be taken up and referred to the Committee on Constitutional Amendments, with instructions to make it conform to that report. I will state in a moment the reasons for my motion, and I think they will commend it to the favor of the House.

The message of the House of Bishops presents a very grave constitutional question, upon which I may say that there was a radical division in the Committee on Constitutional Amendments. I know perfectly well that that message of the House of Bishops cannot be concurred in by this House without a determined opposition and a long debate, because it proposes precisely the permanent dismembering of the Diocese of Texas, which many of the lawyers and laymen of this House think cannot be done without an amendment to the Constitution. I do not share that doubt in my own mind. I do not believe the message of the House of Bishops proposes any violation of the Constitution. I do not stop to give my reasons, but I know very well that there are many members of this House abler and more learned than I am who not only doubt, but have a deep conviction the other way. I therefore say that relief in that way will not be given to the Diocese of Texas without a long debate and a determined opposition, and perhaps not at all.

But the special report of the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution-a report, I may say, that was unanimously made by them-proposes to give relief to the Diocese of Texas by setting apart a large portion of its territory, according to the wishes of that Diocese, as missionary ground, to be covered by the appointment of a Missionary Bishop or Bishops, without determining that the Diocese of Texas is thereby permanently dismembered. I think the House will I think the Delegation of agree, perhaps without a

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give relief in that way, and then I wish to add that I suppose the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution collaterally with this subject will bring forward an amendment to the Constitution to cover doubts and to provide for future cases as they may arise. Therefore, I move that the Message of the House of Bishops be taken up in connection with that special report of the Committee on Constitutional Amendments, and be referred to that Committee with instructions to make it conform to the conclusions of that report.

Rev. Dr. FULTON, of Alabama. Mr. President, I am only too glad to hear what has just been proposed by the honorable Deputy from Central New York. I shall not detain the House with any words of mine now. I share his doubt as to the correctness of the decision at which that distinguished Committee has arrived. I think that it is competent to this Convention now and here, acting upon the consent of the Bishop of Texas and of his Diocese, to do what this Convention is empowered to do in the case of a Diocese seeking to be divided; that is to say, to grant the permission asked by the Bishop of the Diocese; but I agree with the honorable Deputy that there is danger of a long debate concerning a matter on which we are substantially agreed, and, therefore, in the full trust that that Committee will return a most speedy report that may be easily acted upon, I shall not pursue my right nor detain the Convention with one word more than seconding it.

Mr. WILDER, of Minnesota. ["Question! Question"] If the House is anxious for the question to be taken, it is all I want. I desired simply to say, in corroboration of what has been said by Judge Comstock, that the Committee on Constitutional Amendments will, if his resolution be adopted, and that subject be referred to us, act upon that question with as much promptness as my very worthy friend, the Clerical Deputy from Texas, himself will ask, he being a member of that Committee. ["Question!" Question!"]

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The PRESIDENT. The question is on the motion of Judge Comstock to take up the message from the House of Bishops, No. 34, and refer it together with the report from the Committee on Constitutional Amendments to that Committee, in order that the action proposed by the House of Bishops may be conformed to that report.

The motion was agreed to.

The PRESIDENT. Let me ask Judge Comstock whether he included in his motion the report that was under discussion?

Mr. COMSTOCK, of Central New York. That report embraces the opinion of the Committee that the proposed amendment to the Constitution has fallen to the ground for the reasons therein stated. I move that the House agree to that report.

The PRESIDENT. That motion has virtually been passed by laying the amendment on the table, I think. The Chair will put the question on agreeing to the report.

Mr. BURGWIN, of Pittsburgh. The original motion I made to discharge the Committee disposes of the report.

The PRESIDENT. The Chair will put the question on discharging the Committee. The Committee was discharged.

"Resolved, That this House hereby appoints to the supervision of said district Rt. Rev. Channing M. Williams, D.D., the present Missionary Bishop of China and Japan, with the title of Missionary Bishop of Yeddo, having jurisdiction in Japan.

Resolved, That this House hereby constitutes China a separate Missionary District, and will proceed to nominate a Missionary Bishop therefor, to be designated as Missionary Bishop of Shanghai, having Episcopal jurisdiction in China; and the House of Bishops informs the House of Deputies that it has, in accordance with the above resolutions, nominated the Rev. William Pendleton Orrick, of the Diocese of Central Pennsylvania, Rector of Christ Cathedral, Reading, in said Diocese, as Missionary Bishop of Shanghai, with jurisdiction in China."

THE HYMNAL.

Rev. Dr. HALL, of Long Island. I tried twice to-day, and by accident have missed fire. I want to get the Hymnal off my mind and shoulders. I move that it be made the special order for two o'clock on Tuesday.

The motion was agreed to.

SHORTENED SERVICES.

Rev. Dr. DUDLEY, of Maryland. I desire to offer a resolution now, because by our rules of order after the sixteenth day no new business can be introduced. It has been agreed upon in the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution that we cannot, without an amendment to the Constitution, provide for any order of shortened services. will be remembered that it seemed to be the almost unanimous desire of the Convention three years ago that there should be, if possible, some shortened form of services. Therefore, I propose this resolution :

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Mr. COMSTOCK, of Central New York, offered the following resolution, which was on his motion referred to the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution :

"Resolved (the House of Bishops concurring), That an Amendment of the Sixth Article of the Constitution be proposed, so that said article shall read as follows:

"The mode of trying Bishops shall be provided by the General Convention. The Court appointed for that purpose shall be composed of Bishops only. In the several Dioceses the mode of trying in the first instance Presbyters and Deacons may be instituted by the Convention thereof; but the General Convention may provide for the institution of a court or courts of appeal or for the review of trials. Until the General Convention shall make such provision, a court of appeal or review may be instituted and maintained by any Diocese or by any number of Dioceses confederated for that purpose.

TESTIMONIALS OF BISHOPS-ELECT. Mr. WELSH, of Pennsylvania. I present the following resolution:

"Whereas, by Canon 13 of Section 2 (page 57 of the Digest), the assent of the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies in General Convention is made necessary before the testimonials of a Bishop-elect can reach the House of Bishops, and a constitutional majority of the members must sign said testimonials; and

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'Whereas, By the second article of the Constitution 'the concurrence of both orders shall be necessary to constitute a vote of the Convention'; and whereas, The Canons of this Church do not direct that the Standing Committees of each Diocese shall be composed of clergymen and laymen. Therefore,

"Resolved, That Canon 2 Of Standing Committees,' Title III. (page 122), be amended by inserting after the word committee' in the second line these words: 'composed of an equal number of clergymen and laymen'; and that Canon 15 'Of Bishops, Title I. (page 50), be amended by inserting the following words after the word each' in the third line, by a vote of a majority of the clerical and of the lay members.'

This is merely to make the Canon correspond with the Constitution of the Church and the practice. I move that it be referred to the Committee on Canons.

The motion was agreed to.

HOUSE OF DEPUTIES.

Mr. CASS, of Pittsburgh. I have a short business resolution t at I desire to have referred to the Committee on Canons:

"Resolved (the House of Bishops concurring), That it shall be the duty of the Secretary of the House of Deputies, in making up the proceedings of this session of the General Convention for publication in the Journal for 1874, to strike out the words 'House of Clerical and Lay Deputies' wherever they occur, and insert instead thereof the words 'House of Deputies.'

By the Constitution of this Church this House is denominated the House of Deputies; most frequently it is called the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies, descriptive of the House and not the name. It is with a view to correct this that I offer this resolution, and I move it be referred to the Committee on Canons.

The motion was agreed to.

HOURS OF SITTING.

Mr. MONTGOMERY, of Western New York. I give notice that at the request of other gentlemen, I will move, to-morrow, to change the rule of this House so as to provide that hereafter we meet at nine o'clock instead of ten in the morning, and dispense with evening sessions next week.

The PRESIDENT. The notice will be entered.

PRINTING OF THE CALENDAR.

Mr. STEVENSON, of Kentucky. I now ask for action on the motion I made some time ago to print the Calendar.

The motion was agreed to.

TRIALS OF CLERGYMEN. Rev. Mr. MARPLE, of Central Pennsylvania. I offer a resolution of reference :

"Resolved, That the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution be requested to enquire whether there is anything that conflicts with the independence of the different Dioceses or with the spirit of the Constitution of this Church in a proposition that, in the case of the trial of a minister for holding and teaching publicly or privately any doctrine contrary to that held by this

Church, the consent and approval of two-thirds of the number of persons constituting the court of trial shall be necessary to a conviction."

I wish merely to say in explanation that now there seems to be held before the Clergy of this Church too much of a threat. Three years ago it was remarked that a provision of this kind seemed to conflict with the Constitution. The Constitution merely requires that the General Convention shall ordain the mode of trial. Now, I ask only that the same General Convention that ordains rules in regard to admission into the ministry shall ordain rules as to the exclusion from the ministry.

The resolution was referred to the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution.

ABSENCE OF CLERGYMEN.

Rev. Mr. GILLESPIE, of Michigan, submitted the following resolution, which was referred to the Committee on Canons:

"Resolved, That it be referred to the Committee on Canons to enquire and report whether it be advisable to add to Section 7, Title II., after the words 'Bishop thereof ' in line three, or when for a period of two years, although resident in the Diocese, he shall not have been engaged in ministerial work as defined in the Canons of the Diocese,' and after the words 'residence in his Diocese' in line twelve, or shall become engaged in ministerial work.'"

THE CALENDAR.

Mr. TAYLOR, of Virginia. I move that we proceed to the consideration of the business of the Calendar in the hope that we may clear the docket. The PRESIDENT. No motion is required. The Calendar, is regularly before the House.

DISCIPLINE OF COMMUNICANTS.

The SECRETARY. The first business on the Calendar is the following resolution submitted by Rev. Mr. Shipman, of Kentucky, on the sixth day of the session :

"Resolved (the House of Bishops concurring), That a joint committee, to consist on the part of this House of three clergymen and three laymen, be appointed to consider and report to the General Comvention what action, if any, is desirable in addition to, or in explanation of, the provisions already enacted by this Church, for the godly discipline of its communicant members."

The resolution was agreed to.

RITUALISM.

The PRESIDENT. The next business on the Calendar is the memorial from the Diocese of Arkansas, presented by Rev. Mr. Trimble, of Arkansas, tó which is appended the following resolution:

"Resolved, That the foregoing memorial be, and is hereby, adopted by this House, and referred to the House of Bishops."

Mr. MONTGOMERY, of Western New York. I move that it be indefinitely postponed. It relates to Ritual, and we have a Canon reported on the subject.

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. I move that it be laid on the table.

The PRESIDENT. The motion to lay on the table takes precedence. The question is on laying this matter on the table.

The motion was agreed to.

DEPUTIES FROM ALBANY.

The PRESIDENT. The next business on the Calander is the report of the Committee on Elections ouching the application of Rev. Dr. Hopkins for he temporary occupancy of the place of Rev. Dr.

Payne, absent on leave. No action was recommended by the Committee, but, at the request of several members, it was placed on the Calendar. Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. I move that it be taken from the Calendar and laid on the table. The motion was agreed to.

RELATIONS WITH CANADIAN CHURCH.

The PRESIDENT. The next business is the report of the Joint Committee to meet the Delegation from the Provincial Synod of Canada in regard to such measures as that Delegation desired to bring before this General Convention, made by Rev. Dr. Rudder, of Pennsylvania, on the seventh day of the session.

Mr. SMITH, of South Carolina. I move that it be passed over for the present. The motion was agreed to.

The PRESIDENT. The next business is the communication from the Provincial Synod of Canada, read on the seventh day of the session by the President of the House and provided for by message from the House of Bishops, No. 20, appointing a joint committee to visit the Provincial Synod at its next synodical meeting.

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. I thought that had been disposed of. If not I move that it be taken from the Calendar and laid on the table.

Mr. WELSH, of Pennsylvania. What is the operation of this motion? They sent a delegation to us, and they ask in return, do they not, that we should do a like favor? Does this dispose of it?

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. It is a matter that has no concern on our Calendar. If laid on the table it can be called up at any time, if it is necessary to call it up. It does not conflict with any motion to appoint messengers, or agents, or representatives to attend this Conference.

The SECRETARY. I would state to members that the House of Bishops appointed a Committee on its part. This House concurred in that action and referred the nominations to the Committee on the State of the Church. That Committee this morning sent in the nominations, and their report was placed on the Calendar.

Mr. WELSH, of Pennsylvania. Then it will come up. The PRESIDENT. It is moved that this matter be taken from the Calendar and laid on the table. The motion was agreed to.

PERSONS ADMITTED TO SECRET SITTINGS. The PRESIDENT. The next business is the resolution offered by Rev. Dr. Locke, of Illinois, inviting the presence of the visiting clergy of Illinois and Wisconsin during the discussion of the report of the Committee on the Consecration of New Bishops, touching the confirmation of the election of Drs. Welles and Seymour.

Rev. Dr. CHASE, of Illinois. On behalf of the Diocese, I ask that that be withdrawn.

The PRESIDENT. By general consent leave will be granted to withdraw the resolution.

MINISTERS FOR FOREIGN COUNTRIES.

The next business was the following resolution reported from the Committee on Canons" :

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"2. Resolved (the House of Bishops concurring), That the numbers 5 and 7, in Subsection 4, of Section 8, of Canon 13, of Title I., be changed to 6 and 8 respectively, so that the said Subsection may read as follows:

"4. Any Bishop or Bishops elected and consecrated under this section, or any Foreign Missionary Bishop heretofore consecrated, or any Bishop to whom the exercise of episcopal powers and functions in a foreign Church or congregation shall have been assigned by the presiding Bishop, may ordain as deacons or presbyters, to officiate within the limits of their respective missions, or in such foreign Church or congregation, any persons, of the age required by the Canons of this Church, who shall exhibit to him or them the testimonials required by Canons 6 and 8 of this Title, signed by not less than two of the ordained Missionaries of this Church who may be subject to his or their charge, or by two Presbyters of this Church, in good standing, connected with such foreign Church or congregation.

"Provided, nevertheless, that if there be only one ordained missionary attached to the mission, or only one Presbyter of this Church connected with such foreign Church or congregation, and capable of acting at the time, the signature of a Presbyter in good standing under the jurisdiction of any Bishop in communion with this Church may be admitted to supply the deficiency.'

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. I move the adoption of the resolution. It is a mere misrecital of the canons applicable to the subject matter. Where it says Canons 5 and 7 of this Title, it ought to have been 6 and 8 of this Title.

The resolution was adopted.

LAY READERS.

The PRESIDENT. The next business in order is the report of the Committee on Canons in relation to the appointment of Lay Readers, as follows:

"In relation to the enquiry whether a subsection relating to the appointment of Lay Readers by the Bishop should not be added to Section 2 of Canon 9, of Title I., the Committee report as follows: From an examination of the printed Journals it would seem that such addition would be proper, the same having been adopted in this House and not appearing to have been stricken out by the House of Bishops. But upon examination of the enrolled copy of the Canon, as sent to the House of Bishops and preserved among its papers, it appears that the subsection in question was, through an error of the Clerk of this House, appended to the preceding section (that is, Section 2 of the Canon as it then stood), the whole of which section was struck out by the House of Bishops, which, of course, included said subsection. The Committee therefore recommend the adoption of the following resolution: "Resolved, That the Committee on Canons be discharged from the consideration of the subject." Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. I move the adoption of the resolution.

The resolution was adopted.

AMENDMENT OF A CANON.

The PRESIDENT. The next business is the report of the Committee on Canons in relation to a proposed amendment to Section 1, of Canon 10, of Title II., as follows:

"In relation to the proposed amendment to Section 1, of Canon 10, of Title II., by changing the word'or,' in the fourth line, to 'and,' the Committee report that they are of the opinion that it is inexpedient, and recommend the adoption of the following resolution :

Resolved, That the Committee on Canons be discharged from the consideration of the proposed amendment to Section 1, of Canon 10, of Title II." The resolution was adopted.

The next business on the Calendar was the following resolution reported by the Committee on Canons:

"Resolved, That the Committee on Canons be discharged from the consideration of a proposed repeal of Section 6, of Canon 13, of Title Î.”

The resolution was agreed to.

Mr. BATTLE, of North Carolina. I really do not think it will conduce to the health of members of this House to remain longer in session. I move that the House adjourn.

The motion was not agreed to; there being on a division ayes 66, noes 67.

COMMITTEE ON RULES.

The PRESIDENT. The next businesss on the Calendar is notice of a motion to amend the rules of order, made by Rev. Dr. Hubbard, of New Hampshire.

Rev. Dr. HUBBARD, of New Hampshire. My motion was to amend the rules so that the Chair might appoint a Committee on Rules of Order. If the House wish to go into that now, I will state my reasons for it.

My motion is to amend the fourth rule of order by adding to the Standing Committees appointed by the Chair a Committee, No. 14, on the Rules of Order. My reasons are these: There are many new amendments constantly arising and new rules proposed to the House. It will be a very great convenience to have a Committee on the Rules of Order, acquainted with parliamentary law, to consider these proposed rules and to report to the House.

The next reason is that we are not acting here under ordinary parliamentary rules. The rules of order, therefore, are to be accommodated to our especial use. A committee of this House would be both acquainted with the ordinary parliamentary rules, and have great experience in our own sessions in order to adapt these rules to our uses.

The next reason is to preserve the traditions of the House. I have noticed in several successive Conventions the same questions would arise, and having been determined in one Convention, they arise in the next Convention, and keep us in discussion for half a day because, simply, there was nobody in the House whose business it was to preserve the traditions of the House, and so to correct at once any proposition which conflicts with decisions already reached. This Committee will be to preserve the traditions of the House.

The fourth reason is that this Committee on the Rules of Order would form a body of assessors to determine questions at once, if possible questions that are difficult to determine when thrown into the House.

These were my reasons for proposing this Committee.

Mr. DE MILL, of Michigan. I move to lay the proposition on the table.

The motion was agreed to.

LIMITATION OF DEBATE.

The PRESIDENT. The next business on the Calendar is the resolution offered by Mr. Stephens, of Tennessee, on the tenth day, proposing a límitation of debate on the order of the day, which was at that time laid on the table.

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. I move that that be withdrawn from the Calendar, the occasion for it having passed over.

The motion was agreed to.

BASIS OF REPRESENTATION.

The PRESIDENT. The next business on the Calendar is the report of the Committee on Amendments to the Constitution, asking to be discharged from the further consideration of certain resolutions proposing a rearrangement of the basis of representation in this House.

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. I move that the Committee be discharged from the consideration of that subject.

The motion was agreed to.

REFERENCE OF MESSAGES.

The PRESIDENT. The next business is the notice of Mr. Burgwin to amend Rule of Order No. 12, as follows:

"Resolved, That the Rules of Order be amended by adding to Rule No. 12:

"All messages from the House of Bishops communicating any legislative action on their part shall, without debate, be referred to the proper Committee."

Mr. MONTGOMERY, of Western New York. I would amend by adding "unless otherwise ordered by the House.'

Mr. BURGWIN, of Pittsburgh. That is not necessary, because the House always, by a vote of two-thirds, can suspend a rule.

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Mr. MONTGOMERY, of Western New York. do not want a vote of two-thirds. "Unless otherwise ordered" requires only a majority.

Mr. BURGWIN, of Pittsburgh. I object to the amendment, because I think when a resolution from the House of Bishops, proposing legislative action, comes here, that it ought to go to a committee, unless it is so plain and palpable that we ought to pass upon it at once.

Mr. MONTGOMERY, of Western New York. I withdraw the amendment.

The resolution was agreed to.

MISSIONARY BISHOPS' FUND.

The PRESIDENT. The next business on the Calendar is the following resolution, reported by the Committee on the State of the Church, on the eleventh day of the session :

"Resolved, That the Trustees of the Missionary Bishops' Fund are requested to issue a circular annually to the Rectors of all our Parishes asking an offering for this fund."

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. Does that require the concurrence of the House of Bishops? I move to insert the words "the House of Bishops concurring" after "Resolved." It will come with much more force if it be the result of the concurrent action of both Houses.

The amendment was agreed to, and the resolution as amended was adopted.

REMOVAL OF MINISTERS.

The PRESIDENT. The next business on the Calendar is the following resolution, reported by the Committee on Canons:

"Resolved, That this House concurs in the amendment of Subsection 4, Section 7, of Canon 12, Title I., proposed by the House of Bishops in Message No. 18."

Mr. SHEFFEY, of Virginia. The Canon as it stands provides that it shall be the duty of all ministers to obtain and present letters of transfer as above, whenever they remove from one Diocese or Missionary Jurisdiction to another, with the exception of Professors in the General Theological Seminary, officers of the Board of Missions, and professors in colleges and universities which are established by the concurrent action of two or more Dioceses associated for that purpose. The object is that the professors of the University of the South shall not be registered as ministers of the Diocese of Tennessee, but shall retain their domicile and the right of ministerial domicile in their respective Dioceses.

Rev. Dr. KIDNEY, of Minnesota. I should like to ask why it would not be as well to include in this exception professors of theological seminaries which shall be under the direction of more than one Diocesan authority? It is among the possibilities that the Diocese of Wisconsin may be divided, and if this Canon be passed without this exception, it would oblige the members of one of these Dioceses to transfer themselves to the other. There is the same reason why this exception should exist in this case as in the other.

Rev. Dr. ADAMS, of Wisconsin. I think that in view of the division of Dioceses, every Diocese should agree to this, else we shall be cut off or forced to accept ecclesiastical relations that we do not desire. I will also say that it adds one step more to the supporting of a Church College within a State, a Church Seminary, and other institutions of the same kind.

Mr. STARK, of Connecticut. It is five o'clock, and I move that the House adjourn.

Mr. MONTGOMERY, of Western New York. I move that the motion first made on the report of the Committee on Canons be referred to the Committee on Canons to report thereon. I think that when Dioceses are divided, institutions that belong to both Dioceses need this legislation as much as any other.

The PRESIDENT. A motion is made to adjourn. The motion was agreed to; and the House adjourned until to-morrow, at ten o'clock A.M.

SIXTEENTH DAY.

SATURDAY, October 24. The Convention assembled in St. John's Chapel at ten A.M.

Morning Prayer was said to the end of the Psalter by Rev. Charles Minnigerode, D.D., of Virginia. The Lessons were read by Rev. Duncan C. Mann, of Western New York. The Creed and Prayers were said by Rev. William P. Ten Broeck, of Wisconsin. The Benediction was pronounced by Right Rev. Ozi William Whitaker, Missionary Bishop of Nevada and Arizona.

The minutes of yesterday's proceedings were read and approved.

REFERENCE OF A MESSAGE.

The PRESIDENT. There is a message from the House of Bishops undisposed of (Message No. 36), which will, under the order of the House, be referred to the Committee on Canons.

LEAVES OF ABSENCE.

Rev. Mr. SHIPMAN, of Kentucky, from the Committee on Elections, reported that leave of absence for the remainder of the session had been