Senator RUSSELL. In addition to the $9,880,000 of emergency funds that were received, from the various sources, carried over from previous years, can you furnish this committee any figures showing the approximate cost of the upkeep of all of the Civilian Conservation Corps camps that were under the supervision of the Soil Conservation Service?

Mr. COLLIER. The total Army cost, or the Federal expenditures involving the supervisory cost?

Senator RUSSELL. I would like to have the supervisory cost. imagine the supervisory cost is included in these items you have testified to.

Senator O'MAHONEY. You mean whatever cost comes out of this appropriation for this bureau?

Senator RUSSELL. And also the cost incurred through the expenditure of emergency funds.

Senator O'MAHONEY. You mean the funds expended under the direction of this bureau.

Mr. COLLIER. We can furnish a statement on that.

Senator RUSSELL. At the last hearing on this item last year, it was developed that the cost of the Emergency Conservation Work Erosion camps to December 30, 1935, had amounted to $73,491,685. I should like to have you pick that up at December 30, 1935, and bring it down to date, or as near to date as possible.

Mr. COLLIER. That, of course, includes all of the Army costs, and it would be an estimate on our part.

Senator RUSSELL. How did you secure this statement last year? Mr. COLLIER. That was estimated on their cost of maintaining a camp per year.

Senator RUSSELL. Then just make up another estimate on that. Mr. COLLIER. Yes.

EMERGENCY CONSERVATION WORK EXPENDITURES IN CONNECTION WITH CAMPS UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF the Soil ConsERVATION SERVICE

On page 398 of the Senate Agriculture Department appropriation hearings for 1937, the costs in conjunction with the Emergency Conservation Work camps under the supervision of the Soil Conservation Service, to December 30, 1935, were estimated at $73,491,685, including all War Department costs. For the period January 1, 1936, to June 30, 1936, the additional cost in conjunction with the Emergency Conservation Work camps of the Service is estimated at $37,468,477, including all War Department costs. For the entire fiscal year 1937, the total costs in conjunction with the Emergency Conservation Work camps of the Service, including all War Department costs, are estimated at $65,923,888. For the fiscal year 1938, it is impossible to make even a reasonably accurate estimate inasmuch as the number of camps to be available to the Service for that year has not yet been finally determined.

The number of camps assigned to the Soil Conservation Service by States and camp periods is as follows:

In addition to the costs in conjunction with the Emergency Conservation Work camps paid out of Emergency Conservation Work funds. The Soil Conservation Service will have spent during 1937 $932,250 from regular funds for the salaries of supervisory personnel for Emergency Conservation Work camps not located on regular projects of the Service. Also financed from regular funds was the considerable cost of planning for the work of camps working on regular projects of the Service, which, however, cannot be segregated from other costs involved on such projects, and the overhead costs involved in coordinating giving general direction to all of the camps.