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The WITNESS. I do not remember offhand how many personal trips I made to New York because at the times I have gone they were not in any way connected with the chairman or the committee. I have gone rather frequently on my own.

Mr. NEDZI. When you say rather frequently was this once a month, twice a month, once in 2 months?

The WITNESS. In all truthfulness, I could not remember how often it was because this has been over a 3-year period of time.

Mr. NEDZI. We are talking about a 2-year period of time; 1965 and 1966.

The WITNESS. I am talking about the trips that have been over a 3-year period. Although you are discussing 2, it has been over a 3-year period. I do not remember when and how often it was at the time.

Mr. NEDZI. Did you go more frequently on personal business than on committee business?

The WITNESS. To my knowledge, no, sir. I did not.

Mr. NEDZI. Can you compare the reasons for going whether you went approximately the same number of times on personal business or committee business?

The WITNESS. No; I could not compare them because I have never given it any thought.

Mr. NEDZI. Can you give it some thought now?
The WITNESS. I still couldn't say.

Mr. NEDZI. Did you go twice as many times on personal business than committee business or twice as many times on committee business as personal business, or the same number of times?

The WITNESS. As I just said, if I cannot remember well enough to put the two together, then I could not say whether or not I went twice as many times on one than the other.

Mr. NEDZI. When you went on a personal visit, did you go on a weekend or during the week?

The WITNESS. I think I went on the weekend.

Mr. NEDZI. How long would you stay if you went on personal business?

The WITNESS. I stayed a few days. How many days I couldn't say exactly. For instance, I remember one occasion I went to New York with some' friends. We just went up there for a weekend. We all stayed downtown'at one of the hotels on this particular occasion.

Mr. NEDZI. Did you ever go for a day?
The WITNESS. Go to New York just for a day?
Mr. NEDZI. Yes.
The WITNESS. Is this personal or business?
Mr. NEDZI. At any time.
The WITNESS. I might have. It is not clear to me right now. I
might have gone for a day.

Mr. NEDZI. I have no further questions.
Mr. DICKINSON. No questions.

Mr. Hays. Thank you, Mr. Warren, you may be excused. You are excused from the subpena.

(Witness excused.)

Mr. Hays. The committee will stand in recess until December 29, 1966, at 10 o'clock.

(Whereupon, at 11:45 a.m., the committee was recessed to reconvene at 10 o'clock, Thursday, December 29, 1966.)



Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 10:37 a.m., in room H 329, Capitol Building, Hon. Wayne L. Hays (chairman) presiding.

Present: Messrs. Hays, Burleson, Nedzi, Lipscomb, Devine, and Dickinson.

Also present: Daniel L. O'Connor, associate counsel; C. William Tayler, associate counsel; and Julian P. Langston, chief clerk; Ralph Smith, legislative assistant to Mr. Dickinson.

Mr. Hays. Mr. Langston, you have been sworn previously.

JULIAN P. LANGSTON, having been previously duly sworn, was recalled and testified further as follows:

Q. Will you state your name again for the record?
A. Julian P. Langston.

Q. You are the chief clerk of the Committee on House Administration?

A. That is correct.

Q. Now, as the chief clerk you have custody of the files of the committee?

A. That is right, sir.

Q. And did you find in your files a copy of a subpena issued by the Special Subcommittee on Contracts to one Y. Marjorie Flores?

A. Yes; I have a copy of that subpena here.
Mr. TAYLER. Can that be marked "Langston Exhibit 7”?


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(The above-referred-to document was marked "Langston Exhibit 7" and received in evidence.)

By Mr. TAYLER: Q. Was that subpena delivered to the U.S. marshal in San Juan for service upon Miss Flores?

A. Yes. It was mailed on December 14, 1966.

Q. Now, did you receive from the U.S. marshal in San Juan a return of service of that subpena?

A. Yes, sir; we had a return of service.
Q. Do you have with you a return of service on the Flores subpena?
A. Yes, I have a return of service from the marshal in San Juan.

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Enclosed please find subpoena for above-mentioned wtness duly executed by Deputy V. S. Marshal José A. López on December 15, 1966.

Please send us check for $9.44 for fees and mileage, payable to the order of the United States Marshal.

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