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A. Other members of the staff.
Q. You used names of members of the staff ?
A. Lewis, Clark, Swann.
Q. Why did you use those names!
A. He told me to.
Q. He
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A. No, just four names.
Q. He gave you four names?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you purchase five tickets in each name?

A. I do not remember. I just remember there was one time I purchased a substantial number.

Q. When did this take place?

A. I think it was last January or February, somewhere around there. It was one day in which a lot of tickets were purchased.

Q. January, February 1966 ?
A. Yes, sir. Somewhere around the early part of the year.
Q. Did the Congressman depart after he received those ž0 tickets?

A. Sometimes he did, sometimes he did not. Sometimes he would not depart for quite a while when he had them.

Q. What you are saying is you do not know whether those tickets were used or not?

A. No, I do not.

Q. I would like to know, and I know the committee would, whether the tickets were used and whether those named on the tickets were still here in Washington.

A. I do not know. I mean for the most part the chairman used the tickets.

Q. You know Chuck Stone did not go on those trips.
A. I know Chuck Stone did not go on those trips.
Q. You did not go?
A. Mrs. Stone will verify that.

Q. We have made an analysis of the trips that were taken by you or tickets that were purchased by you for which you claimed no reimbursement. There are certain tickets, in cross-checking them with others that have been acquired, in which the name of Swann appears quite frequently.

A. Yes.
Q. Didn't Miss Huff travel under the name of Swann?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. How often would she travel under the name of Swann?
A. I don't know. I don't know how many times.

Q. It was customary for her to travel under an assumed name, is that correct?

A. That is right.

Q. Who would decide what name she was going to travel under on a particular trip? A. The chairman. Q. Did she also travel under the name of Lewis? A. Yes, sir. Q. Quite frequently? A. Whatever"quite frequently” means.

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Q. Well, in your own words.
A. With a certain degree of frequency.
Q. Would it be as often as once a week?
A. No, not that much.
Q. Twice a month?
A. Wait a minute. Once a week to where?

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Q. New York City.
A. It would vary.
Q. How did this practice originate?
A. I don't know. What do you mean?
Q. I mean buying tickets and putting in an alias on it.

A. This was to avoid his troubles with the press, I assume. He wanted to travel anonymously. You will remember when he went to Europe this year in June his name wasn't even carried on the manifest of United States Lines.

Q. Did he have an alias at that time?
A. No, he wasn't even carried.

Q. Anyhow, it was the practice down there to purchase tickets in your name and someone's name knowing there was going to be travel by Powell and Huff?

A. I wouldn't say “knowing.” Sometimes we did and sometimes we didn't.

Q. Sometimes you did and sometimes you didn't?
A. That is right.

Q. Were there others for whom tickets were purchased besides Miss Huff and the Congressman!

A. Not that I know of.

Q. In obtaining these tickets, I assume you always used your "Q" card ?

A. That is right.

Q. Are we safe in saying that the travel you did personally was purchased on your personal card as distinguished from the “Q” card?

A. Yes, but there might be some that would show up on the other card. I tried in my own mind to make that distinction.

Mr. Hays. Mr. Stone, do you have any kind of diary or record of when you traveled ?

The WITNESS. I thought I did, but I don't. I don't have any record at all.

By Mr. O'CONNOR: Q. In other words, the diary was brought to the office the other day when you were in and it was of no help to you?

A. There was nothing in there.

Q. Let's examine a particular case. The tickets you purchased August 5, 1966. You purchased three round-trip tickets, Washington to New York to Miami, one in the name of Clark, one in the name of Swann, and one in the name of Givens. Do you recall that?

A. How did it go, from Washington to New York?
Q. To New York to Miami.
A. New York to Miami?
Q. Yes.
A. I don't recall that, but if my card was used, I guess I did it.

Q. At the same time you purchased two additional tickets, one in the name of Stone and one in the name of Swann, Washington to Miami?

A. That would seem more logical. The Washington-New York-
Miami, I don't recall.

Q. Now, the Washington-to-Miami trip, that was for you and your wife, was it not?

A. That is right.
Q. Your wife was traveling under the name of Swann?
A. Yes; that is right.

Q. And the tickets to Washington, New York, Miami, were purchased for Mr. Powell, Miss Hutf, and Miss Givens?

A. I guess so.
Q. Well, it is not “I guess so.
A. I don't know.

Mr. Hays. Let's put it this way, Mr. Stone: That is what the record
shows and you have no other recollection?
The WITNESS. That is right.

By Mr. O'CONNOR:
Q. On that trip, Mr. Powell traveled under the name of 0. Clark?
A. I don't know.

Q. One was 0. Clark and one C. Lewis. You are familiar with them?

A. Yes.

Q. The tickets Miami to-Washington to Miami and return to Washington were in the name of Swann and Stone; is that correct?

A. Yes.

Q. Why did you purchase the ticket for your wife in the name of Swann?

A. The chairman said that he wanted me to go down as his guest and he would pay for the trip and he reimbursed the committee with a personal check for the money expended.

Q. But you did use the committee credit card for the acquisition of the tickets?

A. Yes.
Q. In what other instances have you done likewise?

A. That is the only time that I can recall. By "personally” do you mean for some member of my family or something like that? .

Q. Yes.
A. That is the only time.
Q. Have you ever taken your wife on another trip with you?
A. No. I can't recall that I did.
Q. Did you ever take her to New York with you?
A. No.
Q. Chicago ?
A. No.
Q. Miami?
A. No. No. I can't recall any and I am almost sure I didn't.
Q. I would like to show you these tickets
A. I took her with me when I drove to New York.
Q. Did you?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. When was that?
A. I have forgotten, but we drove to New York in the spring-
Q. You claimed no reimbursement?
A. No; just the mileage; that is all.

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Q. I am only interested in the instances in which you purchased a ticket with your travel card for her use.

A. Yes.
Q. In how many instances ?
A. That is all I know.

Q. I show you this Xerox copy of tickets purchased August 5 and ask you to examine it, please, sir.

The price shown there is $112.50; is that correct?
A. That is right.

Q. Do they represent the passage purchased for you and your wife to Miami and return on August 5 ?

A. Yes.
Mr. O'CONNOR. Would you mark those as “Stone Exhibit 3”?
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