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Q. We could photostat that and return the original to you, also. On the reverse side it shows the people whom you contacted in Miami on that trip?
Mr. TAYLER. Could that be marked "Dargans' Exhibit No. 8” and may that be admitted into the record subject to withdrawing it after it is photostated and the photostat substituted ?
Mr. Hays. Yes; without objection.
social problems are not as urgent as the economic problems created
it.w. as moro Cuban refugees move into Miami.
The City has had an over
supply of limited-skillod laborers for some time. Hovever, Negroos
unskilled jobs can be handled as vell, and often for less salary,
by a Cuban refugee.
Despite this, Nr. Chairman, no particular impression
was given me that Miami faces a "long hot summer.
ruther highly organized and their groups prosent a cobesive front.
the leaders of these groups enjoy a close working relationship vith
policy local authorities and are called into consultation before/decisions are are bado. They (the leaders) seem to have a reputation for being reliable guardians of the welfare of minority groups and I
suspect that this gives them greater control than is evident 18
The Rev. Edward Graham Pastor, Mt. Zion Baptist Church
Father Theodore Gibson
Episcopal Priest and President of N.A.A.C.P.
(The above-referred-to document was marked “Dargans’ Exhibit No.8" and received in evidence.)
By Mr. TAYLER: Q. Do you know whether or not Miss Flores has performed any services of this nature whatsoever for Congressman Powell during the 89th Congress?
A. No, sir. Q. Have you seen any evidence of any work performed by Miss Flores, such as memorandums or anything like that?
A. No, sir. She is on the congressional staff and I do not see what goes on in his congressional office.
Mr. Hays. Mrs. Dargans, let the record show that I consider you to have been a cooperative witness and it appears to me that you answered the questions to the best of your ability. Is there anything further that
you would like to say to the committee on your own, without being asked any questions, any clarification or any further statement?
The WITNESS. No, sir.
Mr. O'CONNOR. You are leaving town, I understand, and she has asked to be excused from the hearing further.
Mr. DICKINSON. I have no objection.
Mr. Hays. If you will be in your office, I will see that these are photostated and returned to you personally.
The WITNESS. I will be in the subcommittee meeting room, next door. (Witness excused.)
Mr. TAYLER. Mr. Chairman, I offer for the record at the appropriate place Dargans' exhibit No. 5 being the House Administration Committee copy of the voucher for Mrs. Dargans' trip to Miami in April 1965, together with the credit card transportation receipt from the railroad and a bill from the railroad.
Mr. Hays. Without objection, it is so ordered.
(The above-referred to document was marked "Dargans Exhibit 5" and received in evidence.)
Mr. Hays. We will take a 5-minute recess.
C. SUMNER STONE, JR., having been duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
By Mr. O'CONNOR:
A. C. Sumner Stone, Jr., 7605 Morningside Drive NW., Washington, D.C.
Mr. Hays. Mr. Stone, your appearance before this committee will be in executive session unless you request it be in public session. If your appearance is in executive session, the public and press will not be admitted to the hearing room and pursuant to paragraph 26, rule 11, your testimony may not be released or used in a public session without the consent of the committee, nor will you be permitted to purchase a copy of the transcript of your testimony unless authorized by the committee. If your appearance is in public session, the public and news reporters will be admitted but television and news photographers will be excluded.
I now ask you whether you choose to appear before the committee in executive or public session.
The WITNESS. I prefer an executive session.
Mr. Hays. You received a copy of paragraph 26, rule XI, rules of the House?
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hays. You did understand that under that rule you were entitled to have counsel if you so desired!
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hays. Mr. Stone, you understand your constitutional rights are recognized by this committee and a properly made claim of privilege against self-incrimination under the fifth amendment will be recognized.
If you feel an answer may tend to incriminate you, you may so claim and the committee will consider the claim and pass on its validity. The WITNESS. Thank you, sir.
By Mr. O'CONNOR: Q. Are you employed by the Committee on Education and Labor? A. Yes, sir; I am. Q. What is your position with the committee?
A. My position is special assistant to the chairman of the Education and Labor Committee.
Q. Who is the chairman of that committee?
A. The chairman of the committee is Congressman Adam Clayton Powell.
Q. Could you give us a résumé of your business and professional experience during the past 5 or 6 years?
A. Yes, sir. Beginning in 1959 I was editor of the New York Age. Following that for 212 years I was editor of the Washington AfroAmerican. Then I was editor in chief of the Chicago Daily Defender. Following that I was a television commentator for channel 26, UHF station, Chicago, Ill. Then I joined the chairman's staff, Mr. Powell's staff.
Q. What is your educational background?
A. I have a bachelor's degree from Wesleyan University in Connecticut and a master's degree in sociology from the University of Chicago.
Q. When did you first join the chairman and join his staff?
A. I first joined him actually in November 1964, for a 2-month period following my severance from the Chicago Daily Defender. It was my understanding at the time it was just to do some research for him on the war on poverty. I left in December to become a television commentator.
Q. What position did you hold with him in November of 1964?
A. It was kind of vague. He said, “I will make you a special assistant.” It was not really a formal confirmment of title. He did not make any kind of press announcement or anything. If I go back, I might have written letters in which I signed them as special assistant, but I do not definitely recall.
Q. Did you receive reimbursement for services performed ? A. Yes, sir; I was on the payroll for those 2 months. Q. November and December, 1964? A. Yes, sir. Q. When did you rejoin Congressman Powell's staff? A. I rejoined March 20—I actually arrived on the 24th or 25th of March—no, wait a minute, it was about the 21st of March 1965.
Q. This is 1965 you are referring to? A. Yes, sir. Q. Can you tell us the circumstances under which you were employed at this time?
Å. That is when I joined him, when I came and was appointed as special assistant to the chairman. He had called me beginning in February that he wanted me to come back to join the staff, but I had a 13-week television contract that I had to honor. He became pretty persistent about my coming back so on the part of mutual agreement, I terminated the contract and arrived here about the 21st. Actually, I thought I was going on the payroll on March 15 and he said "I will put you on the payroll,” since we were doing an investigation on the Building Services Employees Union in Chicago.
I did some work and interviewed people. I have some memos that I was doing actual actual interviews. But I was not put on the pay. roll until April 1st. Apparently there was some discussion about my not having been here physically in Washington, D.C., and I could not go on the payroll. I never got paid from March 15th to the 31st.
Q. We have an expense voucher which you submitted to the commhittee showing travel from March 24th to March 25, 1965, in the amount of $85.44, which was before the time that you actually went on the committee payroll ?
A. Yes, sir. I thought I was on the payroll at the time.
Q. Could you explain the circumstances under which this voucher was submitted ?
A. Yes, sir. That is the one of my coming from Chicago.
I CERTIFY that the above bill is correct and just, and that payment there hasfnot been received.
• SIGN ORIGINAL ONLY (BM must be completely Alled in before certification by payoe, and there must not be any
Payee erasure or alteration whatever.)
---, 19 , on the Treasurer of the United States at Washington, D. C., in favor of payee named above.
Where a voucher is certified by a corporation or company, the name of the person writing the corporate or company name, as well as the capacity in which he signs, must appear. Example: "Chicago Edison Company, per John Smith, Secretary or Treasurer, or member of Arm, as the case may be.
(The above-referred to document was marked "Stone Exhibit 1" and received in evidence.)
The WITNESS. It was my understanding from the chairman that I was on the payroll as of March 15 and when I arrived here by car, I drove my car, that I would be reimbursed for that travel since it was in an official capacity. But then I subsequently was—I submitted that immediately, I did not know I was not going to be on the payroll until just before the 1st of April.
By Mr. O'CONNOR: Q. Was that voucher that you submitted approved by Congressman Powell ?
A. Yes, sir.