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these items, of course, but there are some rather large sums in here as I am sure you realize?

General HEATON. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. When we mark up the bill we may have to call you or have you see us again.

General HEATON. Fine.

Senator STENNIS. Very glad to have had you here, sir.

General HEATON. An honor to be here, sir.

Senator STENNIS. You need not wait any longer but we will be glad to have you stay, of course.

General HEATON. Thank you, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right, let's go back to the schedule.

U.S. ARMY MUNITIONS COMMAND

EDGEWOOD ARSENAL, MD.

General SHULER. This next line item we request is for a high-pressure chemical research facility. It is required in connection with the research in the field of toxic and incapacitating agents. Pressures up to 5,000 pounds per square inch and temperatures up to 500° centigrade are required to synthesize compounds through a hydrogenization process. There are no existing facilities available at this station capable of doing this nor is it possible to transport materials or personnel during an experiment. We figured this on the very minimum facility required to carry the workload.

Senator SALTONSTALL. Just one question, General.

Why should this be a separate item from the previous item of the clinical research building? If you are going to put in this new building, why shouldn't it all be included in that, or is it?

Mr. VAN KUREN. Mr. Chairman, this is not operationally related to the clinical research laboratory which the committee has already discussed. It is part of the production activities of Edgewood Arsenal in the production of these lethal chemicals.

It is in a different part of the installation.

Senator SALTONSTALL. Then it is at a different location as well? Mr. VAN KUREN. Yes, sir.

Senator SALTONSTALL. So one is a research laboratory for defensive purposes, and this facility is for other purposes?

Mr. VAN KUREN. Yes, sir.

Senator CANNON. You may proceed, General.

General SHULER. Next is one page 156 for an environmental hygiene agency building. This is our reclama list. This item is essential to us, sir, to support the Army's preventive medicine program.

The aim of this program is to prevent disease and injury and promote well-being of both military and civilian personnel of the Department of the Army.

This unit cannot fulfill its mission because of makeshift and totally inadequate facilities. The 14 buildings used to house the U.S. Army Environmental Hygiene Agency are an assortment of various types of structures of World War II mobilization design which were erected for various purposes such as kitchens, barracks, sheds, and administrative buildings. These are unsuitable for the purpose for which they are being used. We feel that scientific and technical work should be accomplished based on scientific and technical requirements, and that it cannot be accomplished efficiently in a dilapidated plant such as it is presently in.

We feel this wastes the talents and skills of very highly paid physicists, surgeons, engineers, radiologists, and so forth.

Senator SALTONSTALL. General, are you talking now on page 156? General SHULER. Yes, sir.

Senator SALTONSTALL. This was denied in the House; was it not? General SHULER. I stated, sir, that it was on our reclama list. You are right, sir; it was denied in the House.

Senator SALTONSTALL. And do you reclama it?

General SHULER. Yes, sir. We feel quite strongly about it, sir. Senator SALTONSTALL. Thank you.

Senator CANNON. What was the reason the House denied this, General?

General SHULER. The same reason, sir, as on all their denials. They said they felt it was possible to get by for 1 more year.

Senator CANNON. Your testimony is that you can't get by for 1 more year?

General SHULER. My testimony is we can get by for 1 more year with the efficiency we are presently running at, but we feel this is way below par.

Senator CANNON. How many people are working in this facility? General SHULER. There will be 113 persons, sir; 36 officers, 8 of whom will be Medical Corps and 25 Medical Service Corps; 30 civilians, of which 18 are technical personnel and 12 are administrative and support personnel; 47 enlisted personnel, of which 19 are scientific and engineernig, 19 are other technical personnel, and 9 administrative and support.

Senator CANNON. All right, you may proceed.

FRANKFORD ARSENAL, PA.

General SHULER. The next item, sir, is on page 156-2, at Frankford Arsenal, and we have no reclama on this item taken out by the House Armed Services Committee.

PICATINNY ARSENAL, N.J.

General SHULER. The next item is on page 158 at Picatinny Arsenal. The request is for a propellant pilot plant. This construction constitutes the final phase of a completely integrated facility for the production of high energy castable composite propellant.

Other increments have already been funded by the Congress. This facility will allow the installation to develop and maintain current state of the art know-how together with prototype scale production capability and will thereby be in a position to produce advanced ammunition.

Senator CANNON. All right, sir.

ROCKY MOUNTAIN ARSENAL, COLO.

General SHULER. The next item, sir, is on page 160.

The item is at Rocky Mountain Arsenal, and it is to rehabilitate the lighting in the administrative building. Very briefly, sir, the present lighting which was installed in 1922, is way below the minimum required for lighting standards. These are actually gooseneck lamps.

All we want to do is to correct this up to the required standards so that people won't be ruining their eyes every day. Senator CANNON. All right, sir.

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U.S. ARMY SUPPLY AND MAINTENANCE COMMAND

AERONAUTICAL MAINTENANCE CENTER, TEXAS General SHULER. The next item, sir, is on page 163 at the U.S. Army Aeronautical Depot Maintenance Center which is at Corpus Christi,

Tex.

This facility, Mr. Chairman, which the Army took over from the Navy is our one and only heavy echelon maintenance facility for aircraft-the fifth echelon maintenance. The requirement here is for an engine depreservation and container repair facility.

We are presently using an open shed. There are no facilities for the necessary sand blasting and welding of the container. It is performed in airframe production shops not properly equipped for the work. We have to do the painting outside. In inclement weather this is curtailed and we do not have any other facilities available to carry on this mission. This is where we take the engine out of preservative material and clean it up and stock it.

Senator CANNON. What kind of a workload do you have there for this type of thing?

General SHULER. The workload in fiscal year 1964 was 139 rotor head cans; 1,628 transmissions and gear boxes; 2,107 aircraft engines, reciprocating type; and 562 turbine type with total number of items, 4,436. The projection on the workload-I will just read the totals of the other fiscal years-fiscal year 1965 to 5,768 units; fiscal year 1966 to 5,607; fiscal year 1967, 5,835; fiscal year 1968, 9,911; and fiscal year 1969, 11,017.

Senator CANNON. How about the containers? How many containers did you have the problem of spray cleaning, sand blasting, and repairing? Do you have any figures on that?

General SHULER. I don't believe I have that specific information. sir, but I can furnish it for the record.

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Senator CANNON. All right, sir. Proceed.

General SHULER. The next item, page 164, is a rehabilitation project for test cell Nos. 9 and 10. As we modernize the aircraft inventory of the Army, we have a significant increase in the inventory of turbine

engines. The existing facilities for maintaining turbine engines at this depot have a capacity of about 500 engines per year. In fiscal 1965 it will be necessary to perform fifth echelon maintenance on over 1,000 engines in this depot. We continue to utilize the existing facilities and we will add this, sir, to the facilities we have to do this job. Senator STENNIS. All right, that is page 164.

General SHULER. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Your item there is $374,000.
General SHULER. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Your next item, please, General.

General SHULER. This is also at the same station, page 165, and the request is for a jet engine component test facility. This is needed, sir, for the overhaul and testing of fuel components of turboprop and turboshaft engines.

Senator STENNIS. Engines for what?

General SHULER. For our Army aircraft, sir. This is our only heavy echelon, fifth echelon maintenance center at Corpus Christi, Tex.

Senator STENNIS. It is the only one you have planned?

General SHULER. Yes, sir, as far as I know. Specific functions at this installation which involve this item are disassembly of fuel components, machine work on parts, assembly and testing. Projected inventory of this type of engine by 1967 is 8,630, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right, anything else?

General SHULER. No, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Senator, do you have anything on that one? Senator CANNON. No, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Next item.

LETTERKENNY ARMY DEPOT, PA.

General SHULER. Letterkenny Army Depot.
The item requested is for security lighting.

Senator STENNIS. $43,000?

General SHULER. Yes, sir. This is to put security lighting around a classified defense materials storage area. It presently has just a chain link fence, and it requires the security lighting and emergency power to keep this lighting going to give us proper security. Senator STENNIS. What have you got there now?

General SHULER. We just have a chain link fence, sir.

Senator STENNIS. You have been using that a long time. This is a small item.

General SHULER. Sir, the classified material I referred to has only been stored there since August 16 of 1961, and the more restrictive physical security standards were established by the Secretary of Defense on December 8, 1962, so it has only been since those dates that we have had this extra requirement, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right, next item.

OAKLAND ARMY TERMINAL, CALIF.

General SHULER. The next item, sir, is on page 169 at Oakland Army Terminal.

It is for a communications center and an automatic data processing system facility.

The reason for these items, Mr. Chairman, is the fact that we are moving out of Fort Mason, except for the family housing, and consolidating the Fort Mason function with the functions at Oakland Army Terminal, thereby saving 175 spaces and an annual savings of $1.6 million, at a one-time cost of $2,029,000 requested at this station to handle these facilities so we can move the Fort Mason function into Oakland Army Terminal.

Senator STENNIS. This won't require any new family quarters?

General SHULER. No, sir; we are going to retain the family quarters at Fort Mason, sir. The people will stay in there and drive back and forth to work.

Senator STENNIS. Otherwise what will become of Fort Mason?

General SHULER. It will be excess, sir, turned over to GSA, but the family housing area retained.

Senator STENNIS. Why do you make this change? Is this part of a program?

General SHULER. This is to save money, sir. By doing this, we can have an annual savings of $1.6 million, reduce 175 spaces, and we spend $2,029,000; so this is a very fast amortization, sir.

From then on we will be saving $1.6 million per year.
Senator STENNIS. Did the Army originate this change?

General SHULER. Yes, sir. We made the study, and it was approved by the Department of Defense, sir.

Senator STENNIS. The Department volunteered you to make the study, did it not?

General SHULER. An honest answer to that, sir, would be "Yes," but I am not objecting to what is being done here, sir.

Senator STENNIS. I understand. You think this is a solid move and it will save money?

General SHULER. Yes, sir, no doubt about it.
Senator STENNIS. All right, next item.

General SHULER. The next item is page 170.

This again is one of the items involved in this move to perform alterations and improvements so that the headquarters at Fort Mason can move into this location. We have some foundation settling in this building. There are pilings involved and that accounts for the cost of it. But this will make the building suitable to make this move, sir. Senator STENNIS. How much did this building cost? We have these administration buildings costing $3 or $4 million right and left. much did this one cost?

How

General SHULER. Mr. Chairman, I will have to furnish that. It has been there for some time. It has housed the headquarters of Oakland Army Terminal. All we are trying to do is to put the two headquarters together at less total strength to do this job, and we have to have these items.

Senator STENNIS. This is part of the move?

General SHULER. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right; give us that data as to how much this building costs.

General SHULER. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. I am impressed with how much space it takes for these headquarters buildings.

(The information referred to follows:)

Building No. 1, having an area of 161,983 square feet, was constructed in 1942 at a cost of $1,139,500.

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