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Now, we, of course, did not mean to preclude the other job that you have, where you work with scientists in other nations about general overall problems. But we never intended you to go in, I am sure, to go into such studies as hoof and mouth disease in the Argentine, or these things in Pakistan.

Senator ALLOTT. Well, it occurs to me on that score

Senator MAGNUSON. If the President directed you, that is one thing.

Dr. HORNIG. In both cases, they were requested by the President, presumably in connection with our foreign policy objectives.

Senator ALLOTT. Foreign aid has $6 million this year in for research, and they have asked for another $3 million. I want to say, Mr. Chairman, I do not know how you wish to handle this, but I have at least 20 or 25 minutes of questions that I would like to ask the Doctor before we conclude with these people. I know we cannot do it this morning.

Senator MAGNUSON. Well, they can come back.

REPORT ON INDUS VALLEY

Dr. HORNIG. I might say on this report of the Indus Valley that we probably will get our money's worth out of it. This is the best study of how water flows and is distributed in a river basin that I know of. I think it is going to have its applications to our own problems in the Southwest. Some of those studied are precisely the problems that will come up with respect to waterlogging and the growth of salinity in the soil, in for instance, southern Arizona. Some of the techniques developed for study here are certainly going to be applicable to our own problems. Now, of course, it is true they did not have to come up first for the Indus Valley; but we did learn something.

Senator MAGNUSON. Let me ask you one question here:

This educational report the special progress report-it does not seem to include radio or television.

Dr. HORNIG. Not that I know of; no.

Senator MAGNUSON. That is a field that if we are going to spend some money on, we better start looking at that. This can revolutionize the whole thing.

REPORTS PUBLISHED BY OFFICE

In connection with these reports it will be helpful if you will put in the record a list of reports sponsored by your office during calendar 1963 and 1964.

(The information referred to follows:)

DOCUMENTS PUBLISHED UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY DURING THE PAST YEAR

Title

PSAC PUBLICATIONS

Date

High-Energy Accelerator Physics (with AEC General Advisory Apr. 26, 1963. Committee).

Use of Pesticides..

May 15, 1963.

FCST PUBLICATIONS

National Plan for Ocean Surveys. ICO No. 7.
Bibliography of Oceanographic Publications. ICO No. 9...
Oceanography-The 10 Years Ahead. ICO No. 10...
National Oceanography Program, Fiscal Year 1964. ICO
No. 11.

Oceanographic Ship Operating Schedules, Fiscal Year 1964-
University Curricula in Oceanography, Academic Year 1963-
64. IČO No. 14.

Research and Development on Natural Resources.

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Status Report on Scientific and Technical Information in the June 18, 1963. Federal Government.

Annual Report, 1962___

Federal Water Resources Research Program for Fiscal Year
1965.

National Oceanographic Program, Fiscal Year 1965. ICO
No. 15.

OST OR INTERAGENCY PUBLICATIONS

Better Housing for the Future..
Report on Land and Water Development in the Indus Plain.
An Assessment of Large Nuclear Powered Sea Water Distilla-
tion Plants.

Innovation and Experiment in Education_.
Meson Factories___.

October 1963.
February 1964.

March 1964.

April 1963.
January 1964.
March 1964.

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COMMITTEE RECESS

Senator MAGNUSON. The committee will recess now until 8:30 tomorrow morning.

Thank you.

(Whereupon, at 10 a.m., Monday, April 13, 1964, the committee. was in recess, to reconvene at 8:30 a.m., Tuesday, April 14, 1964.)

INDEPENDENT OFFICES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1965

TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1964

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 8:30 a.m. pursuant to recess, in room S-128, U.S. Capitol, Hon. Warren G. Magnuson, chairman, presiding. Present: Senators Magnuson, Monroney, Saltonstall, Young, and Allott.

EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

OFFICE OF EMERGENCY PLANNING

STATEMENT OF EDWARD A. MCDERMOTT, DIRECTOR; ACCOMPANIED BY: JUSTICE M. CHAMBERS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR; JOHN E. COSGROVE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, OEP; G. LYLE BELSLEY, DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC AFFAIRS OFFICE; JOHN C. GREEN, DIRECTOR, RESEARCH OFFICE; ROBERT Y. PHILLIPS, DIRECTOR, GOVERNMENT READINESS OFFICE; EUGENE J. QUINDLEN, DIRECTOR, PROGRAM EVALUATION OFFICE; RALPH L. CLARK, SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE DIRECTOR OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS MANAGEMENT; WILLIAM B. RICE, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION; KENNETH A. McLEAN, CHIEF, BUDGET BRANCH AND GORDON B. GILLIS, CONGRESSIONAL LIAISON OFFICER

FISCAL YEAR 1965 BUDGET ESTIMATES

Senator MAGNUSON. The committee will come to order.

We have today the Executive Office of the President, the Office of Emergency Planning.

Mr. McDermott is here, and a number of members of his staff. For the purpose of the record, for "Salaries and expenses" last year your appropriation was $4,695,000, and the budget estimates this year are $5,700,000, or a plus of $1,005,000.

State and local preparedness is the same. Emergency preparedness functions of Federal agencies, in fiscal 1964, $4,190,000, and the budget estimate is $6,500,000, or a plus of $2,310,000.

So your total for fiscal year 1964 is $10,385,000. And the budget estimate is $13.7 million or plus $3,315,000.

A letter of February 20, 1964, from the Director, Mr. McDermott transmitting agency estimates and related summaries will be placed in the record at this point.

Mr. McDermott has a statement here. We would be glad to hear from you.

(The letter referred to follows:)

Hon. WARREN G. MAGNUSON,

JUSTIFICATIONS

EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT,
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY PLANNING,
Washington, D.C., February 20, 1964.

Chairman of the Subcommittee in Charge of the Independent Offices Appropriation
Bill for 1965, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C.

DEAR SENATOR MAGNUSON: Transmitted herewith are appropriation estimates for fiscal year 1965 for the Office of Emergency Planning. They include $5,700,000 for "Salaries and expenses," $1,500,000 for "State and local preparedness," and $6,500,000 for "Emergency preparedness functions of Federal agencies." These three items total $13,700,000. In addition, $20 million is requested under "Disaster relief" for appropriation to the President.

The "Salaries and expenses" appropriation for fiscal year 1965 will finance employment at the fiscal year 1964 level of 300. During fiscal year 1964 a reduction of 90 positions was made from the fiscal year 1963 level of 390 which, in turn, was a reduction of 161 positions from a staffing level of 551 established when OEP was created in August of 1961. This represents a cumulative employment reduction of 46 percent over the last few years.

The funds requested for "Salaries and expenses" in fiscal year 1965 represent an increase of $1,005,000 over the amount appropriated in fiscal year 1964. This increase is due to an additional $1,190,000 requested for outside research and development and is partially offset by a net reduction of $185,000 in salaries and support costs due primarily to lower average employment.

The "State and local preparedness" appropriation of $1,500,000 is the second portion of a $3 million program for assisting State governments in developing a capability for managing resources in a nuclear attack contingency. Funds for the first half of the program were appropriated in fiscal year 1964, and the $1,500,000 requested in fiscal year 1965 will complete the development of a resource management capability in all the States.

The Office of Emergency Planning has reviewed the fiscal year 1965 appropriation estimates for "Emergency preparedness functions of Federal agencies" submitted by the various agencies with emergency preparedness responsibilities assigned by the President. The estimates include only those programs which are beyond the normal functions of the various agencies and which cannot be absorbed within regular funds. The $6,500,000 requested for fiscal year 1956 will enable the various agencies to fill a critical gap in their preparedness program at State and local levels. The budgets for the various agencies have been consolidated and included under separate cover for your consideration.

The estimate for "Disaster relief" for fiscal year 1965 is $20 million, the same amount as that appropriated in fiscal year 1964. This total should be sufficient to provide disaster assistance through fiscal year 1965 unless extraordinarily severe disasters should occur.

The estimates for the Office of Emergency Planning and for other Federal agencies with emergency preparedness assignments have undergone careful and critical review. I believe the budget for fiscal year 1965 represents a reasonable and well-balanced proposal for carrying on the nonmilitary defense program of the Nation and merits your careful and favorable consideration.

Sincerely,

EDWARD A. MCDERMOTT, Director.

EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY PLANNING

INTRODUCTION

The President has directed the Office of Emergency Planning to advise and assist him in the coordination of and the determination of policy for the emergency plans and preparedness assignments of the Federal agencies designed to make possible the mobilization of the Nation's resources to meet any type of national emergency, including an attack on the United States. The statutory authorities on which these functions are based were vested in the President by Reorganization Plan No. 1 of 1958. as amended, and are currently delegated to this Office by Executive Order 11051 of September 27, 1962. They include the National Security Act of 1947, the Defense Production Act of 1950, and the Federal Civil Defense Act. Other related functions assigned to this Office are derived from the Strategic and Critical Materials Stockpiling Act, the Trade Expansion Act of 1962, the Federal Disaster Act, and the Agricultural Trade Development and Assistance Act. All of these assignments involve current preparedness functions based on

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