REPAIR AND IMPROVEMENT, PUBLIC BUILDINGS Senator MAGNUSON. Now, you come to repair and improvement of public buildings. There you are up $15 million from last year. Mr. BOUTIN. $15 million up to a total of $90 million. Senator MAGNUSON. Let's have that broken down as to where the repair and improvements take place. This is actually going out and making the improvements, building or repairing a project, definite project on definite buildings? Mr. BOUTIN. That is right, and it is broken down into four categories. It is broken down and I can give you Senator MAGNUSON. Where is that in this book here? What page? Mr. BOUTIN. I-59. Of that total of $90 million, $29,800,000 is in maintenance repairs. These are painting, pointing, small items of repairs to the heating system, plumbing, electrical systems within a building, minor roof repairs. The minor repairs are spread all over the Nation in projects ranging from $50 to $10,000. Major repairs and improvements is $41,515,000. These are where the projects are going to cost in excess of $10,000 apiece with many of these costing in excess of $200,000 where we are going into a thorough modernization project in the building. For the installation of air-conditioning equipment, $14,735,000; $2,600,000 is for program direction and $1,350,000 is for administrative operations. Senator MAGNUSON. All right. Any questions on that item? MAINTENANCE REPAIRS AND SMALL IMPROVEMENTS The increases are $1.4 million in the area of maintenance repairs and small improvements; $7,358,000 in major repairs and improvements; air conditioning, $4,787,000, and administrative operations $225,000, making $13,770,000, which makes up the increase over last year. Mr. BOUTIN. That is correct. AIR CONDITIONING Senator MAGNUSON. Would you break down also where you are putting in the air conditioning? Mr. BOUTIN. Yes. We can do that. LISTING OF AIR-CONDITIONING PROJECTS In the R. & I. section of the budget, Mr. Chairman, we are listing on pages 1-73 through I-89, all of the projects where we are putting in air conditioning in fiscal 1965, and I can recite those for the committee. This is on I-73 and starts Senator MAGNUSON. Wait a minute. out with the Agricultural Annex; is that correct? Mr. BOUTIN. But if you will look at the extreme right-hand corner of 1965 it will give you where we plan to spend this money this year. For instance, at the customhouse in Savannah, Ga., we plan to spend $85,100 for air conditioning. At the St. Cloud, Minn., post office-courthouse building, $82,000 Senator ALLOTT. Where are you reading those? Mr. BOUTIN. Extreme right-hand column. Senator MONRONEY. What page? Senator ALLOTT. Page I-73. Senator MAGNUSON. You have got for 1964 on I-73, you haven't got any projects in the District of Columbia that I see. Mr. BOUTIN. On that one page we haven't, Senator, but this makes up multiple pages, of course, of projects. Senator MAGNUSON. Where do we start with what you have for 1965? Mr. BOUTIN. For 1965 you start on page I-73. There are none on that page. Senator MAGNUSON. Wait a minute, there is Savannah. Senator MONRONEY. I-75, the first one Savannah. Mr. BOUTIN. You hit the first one on I-75. Senator MAGNUSON. Savannah. Then you hit the next one. Senator MAGNUSON. Yes. Mr. BOUTIN. And the next one then becomes Athens, Tenn., on page 81, $39,300; on I-82, $8,700 at Sevierville, Tenn. On I-83, $40,000 at Burlington, Vt., and those constitute major repair and improvements; and then we get into the prospectus projects. These are the ones where we have to go to the Public Works Committee for authorization. On page I-85, we had quite a few of them. AIR CONDITIONING FEDERAL OFFICE BUILDING NO. 1 Now, you are coming down to the big items. You have got the Federal Mr. BOUTIN. FOB 1. Senator MAGNUSON. FOB 1, $800,000. Who is in FOB 1? Mr. BOUTIN. Mr. Daly, do you have the occupancy of that building? Mr. SCHMIDT. It is occupied by the FBI, the fingerprint and record file section. Senator MAGNUSON. I will ask you a question. We are building a new building, we started, I believe, for the FBI, and they will move over to that building soon, I don't know when the occupancy date is, but is is projected. So, the question we will be asked is why spend $800,000 for an FBI building when they are going to move to a new one. Mr. BOUTIN. We are going to keep this building. Senator MAGNUSON. You are going to continue to use it. Mr. SCHMIDT. It is near the HEW Building, Second and D, Southwest, Mr. Chairman. Senator MONRONEY. Didn't we just build that building? Mr. BOUTIN. You are thinking of FOB 8. Senator MONRONEY. It is beyond that. It is behind it. It is an older building, isn't it? Mr. SCHMIDT. Built in the 1940's. Senator MAGNUSON. Are there any questions on that item? GSA REGIONAL BUILDING AIR CONDITIONING Mr. BOUTIN. The next one is GSA regional office building which is at Seventh and D, again right in that area of where we have Federal Office Buildings No. 10A and 10B, the FAA building, the NASA building. It is occupied by about five different agencies. HEW is one of the big occupants. There are a number of others. INTERNAL REVENUE BUILDING Then the Internal Revenue Building, $1,650,000, which is one of the biggest items that we have here. Senator MAGNUSON. Is this in their building on Constitution? Mr. BOUTIN. This is in their building on Constitution Avenue. We would air condition centrally the whole building. You see neither that building, Mr. Chairman, nor the Department of Commerce building are presently centrally air conditioned. Senator SALTONSTALL. This completes $4 million that you have already put in there. Mr. BOUTIN. That is correct. We planned some very substantial rehabilitation as well as air conditioning. As the Senator points out, the money we have earmarked in fiscal 1965 will complete that entire project, is that correct, Bob? Mr. DALY. Yes, sir; completes the air conditioning and this leaves Commerce Senator MAGNUSON. You are coming outside the District. METHOD OF REPORTING ITEM Senator ALLOTT. That would make $6,368,247 then for the total rehabilitation and air conditioning in the 3-year period 1963 to 1965, inclusive. Mr. BOUTIN. About six and a half. Senator MAGNUSON. All right, then you come outside- You have got this $4 million carried under air conditioning. If it was major repair, replacement, modernization, and renovation why isn't it $4 million carried over here in this column instead of under air conditioning? Mr. BOUTIN. I am combining all of the items, Senator. We are talking about modernization and renovation in the first three columns. We spent $503,445 in 1963, we spent nothing in 1964, and we have a hundred thousand dollars earmarked for 1965. Then on air conditioning we started in 1963 on this building, $4,113,247, $605,000 in 1964, and then the wrap-up, the completion of $1,650,000 in 1965. Senator ALLOTT. Yes. Well, the reason for my question was, maybe you didn't mean to state it that way, but a few moments ago I thought you referred to this $4 million as a modernization program. Mr. BOUTIN. No; I was including Senator ALLOTT. But that is air conditioning. Mr. BOUTIN. I was including the columns to the left. That is air conditioning. Senator MAGNUSON. All right. Any more on that item? LOS ANGELES, CALIF., POST OFFICE Then we go over to I-86 and we are outside the district, and the first item for 1965 is the Los Angeles post office. Mr. BOUTIN. That is correct; post office-courthouse. Senator MAGNUSON. When was that built? Mr. SCHMIDT. I would say it was built about the late 1930's. Mr. BOUTIN. That is correct. We are building a new Federal building there now. Senator MAGNUSON. That was the old one? Mr. BOUTIN. That is correct. OTHER AIR-CONDITIONING PROJECTS Senator MAGNUSON. Then you go down to Grand Junction, Colo. You're air conditioning that beautiful, air-conditioned-by-nature State Colorado. Senator ALLOTT. Not Grand Junction in the summertime. [Laughter.] Senator MAGNUSON. All right, $6,000. Then you have $355,000 item for Hartford. Mr. BOUTIN. That is the old building. Senator MAGNUSON. Now, the next one is $550,000, for Chicago. Mr. BOUTIN. That is the customhouse. Senator MAGNUSON. That is not the new? Mr. BOUTIN. That is not the new building. Senator MAGNUSON. There is air conditioning in the new, isn't there? in? Mr. BOUTIN. The new CT-FOB is under construction right now. Senator MAGNUSON. I mean they are going to put air conditioning Mr. BOUTIN. Thoroughly modern, with air conditioning. FORMER RAND MCNALLY BUILDING Senator MAGNUSON. What is the $2 million for? Senator MAGNUSON. Yes; that is another Chicago Mr. BOUTIN. That is another Chicago building. Mr. Schmidt, you recall? do It Mr. SCHMIDT. That is a multiple-occupancy building, with FBI, Treasury, saving bonds, a total of nine agencies in the building. is the former Rand McNally building which the Government purchased. Senator MAGNUSON. This is the one we rented for so long and had so much trouble getting it with the leases, isn't that right? Mr. SCHMIDT. That is correct. Senator MAGNUSON. It is an older building? Mr. SCHMIDT. We purchased the building. Senator MAGNUSON. Now, we are air conditioning it. Let's put in the record the total cost of that building to the Government, adding the air conditioning. Mr. BOUTIN. Very good. Senator MAGNUSON. Let's see how we came out on it. (The information referred to follows:) RAND MCNALLY BUILDING, 536 CLARK ST., CHICAGO, ILL. Acquired by condemnation, June 18, 1956, including $888,288 interest on additional award over amounts deposited.. Alterations to space released by public debt, repairs to elevators and sprinkler systems and miscellaneous repairs, fiscal year 1957 to 1961... Fiscal year 1962 through Mar. 31, 1964, conversion of 6 elevators to automatic operation, installation of 1 new elevator, and miscellaneous repairs and space alterations___ Total repairs and improvements through Mar. 31, 1964................ Repair and improvement work planned for fiscal year 1965: Install central air-conditioning system for entire building Total, fiscal year 1965.. OTHER PROJECTS $5.713, 288 1, 330, 000 695, 000 2, 025, 000 1, 126, 000 2, 410, 000 3, 536, 000 Senator MAGNUSON. Then the next one you have is St. Paul, $660,000. Mr. BOUTIN. That is the old post office-customhouse building. Mr. BOUTIN. That is the rendering of the new courthouse. This is the post office and customhouse we are going to retain to continue further utilization. Senator MAGNUSON. Then you have two small ones in Missouri, then you have got, is there one in Montana? Mr. BOUTIN. We have a big one in Missouri, too, the mart building, which is almost exclusively occupied by military. Mr. SCHMIDT. Yes, Department of Defense. Senator MAGNUSON. Records. Mr. BOUTIN. No, this is office. Montana, there is just the one in Billings, Mr. Chairman. Senator MAGNUSON. I can testify that it gets hot in Billings in the summertime. Mr. BOUTIN. That is the old one. The new one we are building there is air conditioned. Senator MAGNUSON. All right. Then you have got in Cleveland-you have got one in Greensboro, N.C.-is that an old building-$457,000, is that Asheville? Mr. BOUTIN. Asheville. Senator MAGNUSON. That is an old building. Mr. SCHMIDT. That is the old building. It is the building that the Government purchased at about the beginning of World War II. The building will be retained. Senator MAGNUSON. Cleveland is the $804,000 item. Mr. BOUTIN. That is a big building there. Senator MAGNUSON. Part of that is air conditioned, isn't it, or is it just air conditioning the whole thing? Mr. BOUTIN. This is to air condition the entire building, centrally air condition. |