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The same relative trends are also visible in Government employment. though Federal civilian employment in the executive branch is estimated to rise by 6 percent in the decade since 1955, the employment of State and local governments will rise by about 65 percent. In 1955, the Federal Government employed 33 percent of all civilian government employees. In 1962, it employed 27 percent. Federal civilian employment is estimated to decrease by 1,200 employees from 1964 to 1965. State and local governments, on the other hand, have added in each of the last 5 years about 300,000 employees.

EMPLOYEES IN OTHER GOVERNMENT JURISDICTIONS

Senator MAGNUSON. We find that through all administrations that we have held the line much more than the State and local governments have held it because they have gone up-well, we can see the figures and those figures are just fantastic, as to what they have gone up to, in employment.

Now, when you add that to this, then you have got some real problems that governments should get down to doing something about.

Mr. MACY. Yes; Mr. Chairman. Roughly there are 10 million people today employed by all jurisdictions of government. There are about 8 million in State and local and there are 2,500,000 in the Federal Government.

BLUE-COLLAR DEFENSE AND VA PERSONNEL

Senator MONRONEY. Of this 2,500,000, about 1 million of them are blue-collar workers in the Department of Defense; is that right?

Mr. MACY. The total Defense figure in the most recent report is 1,040,000 Of that number slightly more than 60 percent are blue collar. The next largest employer is the Post Office Department with 587,000.

The third largest is the Veterans' Administration with 173,000. So those three agencies produce a total of approximately 1,800,000, and the rest of the Government is in the other 700,000.

EMPLOYEE CEILINGS AND CLASSIFICATION

Senator MONRONEY. Do you work out the organizational tables in the various departments? Do you fit the civil service schedules into the job requirements?

Mr. MACY. No, they determine their own.

Senator MONRONEY. Each ceiling of each department is determined by them and you merely determine the correctness of the classification of the job?

Mr. MACY. Senator Monroney, they actually classify the jobs based on standards that we issue.

Senator MONRONEY. I see.

Mr. MACY. And we audit a sample of those jobs. The only jobs that we actually classify ourselves are those in grades 16, 17, and 18. Senator MONRONEY. I see, but all of the others are evaluated and plotted by the varous departments and then you postaudit them? Mr. MACY. That is correct.

Senator MONRONEY. You postaudit samples?

Mr. MACY. That is correct. That is part of our inspection program.

Senator MONRONEY. Mr. Chairman, could I ask just one more question?

Senator MAGNUSON. Yes, sir.

FREEZE ON UPGRADING

Senator MONRONEY. About the freeze on the upgrading. Could you tell us a little bit about that and the purpose of that?

Mr. MACY. The word "freeze" I think is journalese for what is involved here. The Director of the Bureau of the Budget sent to the heads of departments and agencies a communication requesting that they examine the average grade and average salary of their department. They were instructed to compare it with the trend that has been running in recent years and particularly to look at the grade distribution of the positions in their organization at the upper end of the scale, because there has been a marked increase in most of the departments and agencies in the number of positions in grades 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18.

In this communication the Budget Director suggests certain controls that might be applied on a Government-wide basis, agency by agency, that would tend to restrain further increases in these grade levels. The departments and agencies have been requested to reply by May 20 indicating what machinery they have within their own organization to restrain this grade escalation and to comment on the proposed control methods that are cited by the Bureau.

So to say that there is a freeze or one immediately in prospect is an overstatement, but there has been a very serious concern about the upward advancement of jobs. Therefore, the request that the responsible managers in the departments and agencies examine their agencies experience with jobs in grades 13 through 18.

The Budget Director included with his letter a table showing the grade advances over the past 5 years for the Government at large and agency by agency.

STATISTICS ON UPGRADING

Senator MONRONEY. Could we get that and have it put in the record?

Mr. MACY. We will supply tables showing the employees under the Classification Act, if you wish.

Senator MONRONEY. Yes, sir, if you have that.

Mr. MACY. We will put the tables in the record.

Senator MONRONEY. Would that be all right, Mr. Chairman?
Senator MAGNUSON. Yes.

(The information referred to follows:)

FEDERAL CIVILIAN FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES UNDER THE CLASSIFICATION ACT OF 1949, AS AMENDED, ALL AREAS, JUNE 30, 1958-63

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FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES UNDER THE CLASSIFICATION ACT OF 1949, as Amended, ALL AREAS, JUNE 30, 1958-63

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