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Senator BALL. In other words, it is to serve the the country who are covered by the two acts?

Mr. MORSE. Precisely.

Senator BALL. So that, even under the Labor D be somewhat biased on the side of labor, but it v place to place these two bureaus which are both I serve the interests of the working people.

Mr. MORSE. And, Senator, if I may say this- I on this point-whenever anybody says to me that while working for the Government, it rather mak cause those of us who are in the Government and right have a greater sense of responsibility, and though we are being made second-class citizens w of biased administration of laws. The fact of t you analyze the bias, at least in the terms that that we are talking about is that Congress pa certain line. If the law has a bias, I am sure yo it is the responsibility of those who have to enforc enforce it with whatever the bias or neutrality or law may be.

Our job is to enforce the laws that are enacted assure this committee that bias is something that exists in the administration of those laws.

Senator BALL. Would it not be put this way: interest is advancing the welfare, within the li welfare, of the working group?

Mr. MORSE. Yes, sir.

Senator BALL. In the same way as the Comm the Government, its purpose is to advance the wel community; the Department of Agriculture is c with farmers, but they all take cognizance of the ge also.

It seems to me that if we carry some of the oppo to its logical conclusion we would abolish both Commerce and the Department of Labor or else Department of Agriculture..

Senator DONNELL. I would like to say for the cur in that at all.

Senator BALL. Thank you very much.

in the tentative conclusion reached by you and Mr. Morse today tha ould be submitted as soon as possible after the convening of the secon the Eightieth Congress in January.

ry truly.

ears the signature of the Secretary of Labor. I want to as Morse, if you know whether the letter of transmittal from th to the Congress of the United States, which was presented on January 19, 1948, was substantially the form of the draf to in this letter from Mr. Schwellenbach to Mr. Webb? ORSE. Well, my best recollection, Senator, is that it was some, but I cannot tell you for sure in what respect. r DONNELL. Do you know if the plan which accompanied the November 4 to Mr. Webb was essentially the same as the plan Known as Reorganization Plan No. 1 of 1948?

ORSE. Well, my recollection is that there were also some but whether they were substantial or not I do not recall. r DONNELL. In order that the record may be complete, I do here the letter from Mr. Webb, I think in response, but I do py of what purports to be a copy of a letter dated November addressed to

S E. WEBB,

or, Bureau of the Budget, Washington, D. C.

R. WEBB: Thank you for your letter of November 14 advising that all tion plans must be submitted by December 1. The Department does to submit any reorganization program other than the one transmitted November 4.

rs very truly,

L. B. SCHWELLENBACH, Secretary of Labor.

s all I wish to ask Mr. Morse at this time, but Mr. Chairman, f Mr. Morse's very clear delineation of the fact that the queslved here, as I see it at any rate, is primarily whether these tions should be in the Department of Labor or whether the tions should be in the FSA, I think it would be exceedingly t that the representative of FSA be invited to appear before nittee. I do not observe that anyone representing that organppears upon the list of witnesses, and I would like to request man to invite someone from the FSA to appear.

r BALL. We will try to do that.

w the Department vi Lavui vil a permanent pasis.

pose of that proposal was to assure the location of agency most familiar with employment problems ai develop a strong and effective job-placement serv workers and industry. That plan, however, was re gress largely because it did not vest the administ employment service and unemployment compensati same agency.

Reorganization Plan No. 1 of 1948 places both service and the unemployment compensation functi ment in the Department of Labor and provides f of Employment to coordinate their administration nates the principal objection to last year's proposal ing the underlying objective toward which that pla the preparation of both plans primary attention the development of the public employment servic obtain jobs rather than unemployment benefits.

The President feels that the Department of Labor able to assist the States in building up their em In the first place, it has the understanding of emp and the operation of the labor market which is es leadership in this field.

It possesses specialists and a wealth of informati employment trends, wage rates, working conditions and many other matters vital to employment co placement. Much of the work of the Bureau of Lab directly on the condition of the labor market and i ment-service planning.

The Women's Bureau provides expert advice or problems of women and the types of jobs suitabl Child Labor Branch of the Wage and Hour Divisio service with respect to adolescent workers, to cite a

In short, the Department of Labor has the re strengthen the United States Employment Service. Furthermore, the basic concern of the Labor Dep ployment problems and the welfare of workers off ance that the primary emphasis in the administrati

with their daily contacts with employers and workers throug e country, are an invaluable source of information on changi ions and emerging problems in the labor field, as well as a chan h which the services of the Department can be made availal agement and labor. The Department needs this two-way li he local labor market.

ransferring the Bureau of Employment Security to the Depa of Labor, the reorganization plan will provide one point t for the State agencies with respect to grants and assure the oordination of Federal policies and regulations on employme and unemployment compensation.

s will simplify Federal-State relations and will carry out t ses of the Reorganization Act with respect to grouping an nating agencies and eliminating overlapping and duplicatio nough unemployment compensation is related to other socia nce programs, it is more directly related to employment servi e employment functions of the Labor Department. The Cor on Economic Security, which formulated the social-securi m in 1935, recommended that it be administered by the Depar of Labor. The President's Committee on Administrative Ma nt also recommended that it be located in the Labor Departmen nost foreign countries unemployment insurance is administer department in charge of labor functions. This is a natur on since unemployment is a hazard of working life and the Lab tment is the agency most directly concerned with the protectio -kers and the stabilization of their employment.

6 States and the Territory of Hawaii the operation of the en ent service and unemployment compensation systems is no in departments of labor. Among them are many of the leadin rial States, including New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, an chusetts. In volume of operations, these States represent mo O percent of the national total.

ere were any real basis for the fear, expressed by some opponent plan, that administration of these programs by the Labor De ent would be unfair to employers, it would long since have bee t in these States and serious efforts would have been made t e the programs from the State labor departments. The fac ch efforts have not been made and that no evidence of unfairnes ployers has been disclosed demonstrates how little foundatio s for this objection.

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Mr. ŴEBB. Yes, Senator; we have, and will be p an amendment to the budget if this plan is approved The savings at the Federal level will be on the order Senator BALL. Is that all?

Mr. WEBB. Yes, sir.

Senator BALL. It seems to me when you combine budgeting work and also the regional work, it ought t that.

Mr. WEBB. Well, of course you have to remember t are now working fairly closely together, and that very hard to find ways of having joint auditing team working on other things. They have done a good jo their activities already.

Senator BALL. I see. Any questions?

Senator DONNELL. Yes.

Mr. WEBB. May I say just one other thing?
Senator DONNELL. Certainly.

Mr. WEBB. The combination at the Federal level r through the joining of these two bureaus. Now it is: to estimate how much saving you will get in the lev above the man who actually runs the Bureau. We get some additional savings, but $50,000 is the amou indicate now will be the submission in the amendmen

Senator DONNELL. Mr. Webb, that is entirely con testimony before the House the early part of this think I am correct in quoting, when I read from pa

I would say that the combination of these services in the I would probably save on the order of $50,000. That comes a the combining of the agencies. As to whether that $50,000 amount if the combination were in the Federal Security Ag I am prepared to say.

Have I correctly quoted your statement?
Mr. WEBB. Yes, sir; that is right.

Senator DONNELL. Now, Mr. Webb, in questioni am a little bit reluctant to raise any question at all a of these different departments. I realize that each department thinks that he is just doing what he shou well be some little irritation that would be develop

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