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INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

S. 2, H.R. 2683, H.R. 2689, H.R. 4048, H.R. 7234,
H.R. 7239, and H.R. 7258

BILLS TO ESTABLISH WATER RESOURCES RESEARCH CEN-
TERS AT LAND-GRANT COLLEGES AND STATE UNIVERSITIES,
TO STIMULATE WATER RESEARCH AT OTHER COLLEGES,
UNIVERSITIES, AND CENTERS OF COMPETENCE, AND TO PRO-
MOTE A MORE ADEQUATE NATIONAL PROGRAM OF WATER
RESEARCH

SEPTEMBER 30 AND OCTOBER 1, 1963

Serial No. 9—Part II

(Public witnesses)

Printed for the use of the
Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs

24-494

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON: 1963

COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS

WAYNE N. ASPINALL, Colorado, Chairman

LEO W. O'BRIEN, New York
WALTER ROGERS, Texas
JAMES A. HALEY, Florida
ED EDMONDSON, Oklahoma
WALTER S. BARING, Nevada
THOMAS G. MORRIS, New Mexico
KALPH J. RIVERS, Alaska
ROY A. TAYLOR, North Carolina
HAROLD T. JOHNSON, California
HUGH L. CAREY, New York
MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona
ELIZABETH KEE, West Virginia
RAY ROBERTS, Texas
KOBERT B. DUNCAN, Oregon
COMPTON I. WHITE, JR., Idaho
JOHN O. MARSH, JR., Virginia
EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California
THOMAS P. GILL, Hawaii

A. FERNÓS-ISERN

(Resident Commissioner), Puerto Rico

JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania

J. ERNEST WHARTON, New York
E. Y. BERRY, South Dakota
JACK WESTLAND, Washington
CRAIG HOSMER, California

J. EDGAR CHENOWETH, Colorado
JOHN KYL, Iowa

HOMER E. ABELE, Ohio
JOE SKUBITZ, Kansas
CHARLOTTE T. REID, Illinois
LAURENCE J. BURTON, Utah
ROGERS C. B. MORTON, Maryland
PATRICK MINOR MARTIN, California

SUBCOMMITTEE ON IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION

WALTER ROGERS, Texas, Chairman

JAMES A. HALEY, Florida
ED EDMONDSON, Oklahoma
WALTER S. BARING, Nevada
THOMAS G. MORRIS, New Mexico

HAROLD T. JOHNSON, California
MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona

RAY ROBERTS, Texas

ROBERT B. DUNCAN, Oregon

COMPTON I. WHITE, JR., Idaho

EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California THOMAS P. GILL, Hawaii

JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania
JACK WESTLAND, Washington
CRAIG HOSMER, California

J. EDGAR CHENOWETH, Colorado
JOE SKUBITZ, Kansas

LAURENCE J. BURTON, Utah

ROGERS C. B. MORTON, Maryland

PATRICK MINOR MARTIN, California

SIDNEY L. MCFARLAND, Professional Staff Director and Engineering Consultant T. RICHARD WITMER, Counsel

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Aldrich, Dr. Daniel G., Jr., chancellor, University of California,
Irvine, Calif...

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Tinney, Dr. E. Roy, Washington State University, Pullman, Wash--
Vernon, Dr. Robert O., Association of American State Geologists,

State Geologist of Florida and water cooperator in various other
States, accompanied by Dr. Joe Peoples of Connecticut--
Warnick, Dr. Calvin C., research professor of civil engineering, Uni-
versity of Idaho...

York, Dr. E. T., provost, University of Florida..

Statements submitted for the record-

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Morgan, Dr., W. E., chairman, Water Resources Committee, Asso-
ciation of State Universities and Land-Grant Colleges, letter of

October 2, 1963--

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American Society of Civil Engineers, New York, N.Y., letter of
August 21, 1963, from William H. Wisely, executive secretary-
American Water Works Association, New York, N.Y., letter of
September 19, 1963, from Raymond J. Faust, executive secretary,
and accompanying statement_

Chamber of Commerce of the United States, Washington, D.C., letter
of October 1, 1963, from Theron J. Rice, Legislative Action General
Manager..

Conference of State Sanitary Engineers, resolution No. 11 adopted at
the 38th meeting, Washington, D.C., June 25-28, 1963---
Hawaii, University of, letter of Sept. 18, 1963, from Thomas H. Ham-
ilton, president__

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WATER RESOURCES RESEARCH CENTERS

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 1963

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION

OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 9:45 a.m. in room 1324, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Wayne N. Aspinall (acting chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Mr. ASPINALL. The Subcommittee on Irrigation and Reclamation will now be in session for receiving further testimony on Senate bill No. 2, which has received the approval of the other body and is now before this committee, and kindred House bills which are before the committee.

In the absence of the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Rogers, chairman of this subcommittee, the chairman of the full committee will take care of the chairing of the sessions today and tomorrow at his request.

Hearings were held on this legislation on June 24 and 25 and July 22 and 23 of this year, at which time representatives of the various departments and agencies of Government were heard.

The Chair wishes to explain as we begin the hearings that he is very appreciative of the fact that we do have present this morning the members who are in attendance.

This is one of those weeks which could not have been foreseen, so many of our members have left the city and are out in their districts, or in somebody else's districts, taking care of their individual and mutual responsibilities. When a session of Congress goes into the fall as long as this one has it is almost imposible to hold hearings on bills as they should be held.

This morning and this afternoon we will hear from representatives of the universities.

The first group we will hear is headed by Dr. William E. Morgan, president of the Colorado State University and chairman of the Water Resources Committee, Association of State Universities and Land-Grant Colleges.

I shall advise my colleagues that Dr. Morgan is president of the university which by recent action made me an honorary alumnus and I am really very proud to have the doctor here.

He is accompanied by Dr. E. F. Osborn, vice president for research, Pennsylvania State University, Dr. Ralph B. Draughon, president, Auburn University: Dr. E. T. York, provost, University of Florida, presented to us a while ago by our colleagues Billy Matthews; and Dr. Daniel G. Aldrich, chancellor, University of California at Irvine.

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