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Senator HILL. In other words, in the language of the law, "they do not assume a defiant attitude."

General NORSTAD. That is right, sir.

Senator SALTONSTALL. I would say, Mr. Chairman, that if these gentlemen are going to give us an expense account, a proposed cost account, that it would be extremely helpful if it could be given in broad, general terms of comparison with what exists now, so that an opportunity would be presented to us to compare present costs and present budget estimates with the future.

In other words, what you would have to draw up, in broad, general terms, would be a comparison of the set-ups in the new and old forms, where they coincide and where they do not.

The CHAIRMAN. Are there any other questions?

Senator RUSSELL. General Norstad will be back at subsequent meetings?

The CHAIRMAN. He will be here at subsequent meetings. Yes; I am sure he will be here, as well as Admiral Sherman.

The committee will now go into executive session.

(Whereupon, at 12:10 p. m., the committee went into executive session.)

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(UNIFICATION OF THE ARMED SERVICES)

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES UNITED STATES SENATE

EIGHTIETH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

S. 758

A BILL TO PROMOTE THE NATIONAL SECURITY BY PROVIDING
FOR A NATIONAL DEFENSE ESTABLISHMENT WHICH SHALL
BE ADMINISTERED BY A SECRETARY OF NATIONAL DEFENSE,
AND FOR A DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY, A DEPARTMENT OF
THE NAVY, AND A DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE WITHIN
THE NATIONAL DEFENSE ESTABLISHMENT, AND FOR THE
COORDINATION OF THE ACTIVITIES OF THE NATIONAL DE-
FENSE ESTABLISHMENT WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND
AGENCIES OF THE GOVERNMENT CONCERNED WITH
THE NATIONAL SECURITY

PART 2

APRIL 8, 9, 15, 18, 22, 24, AND 25, 1947

Printed for the use of the Committee on Armed Services

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COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

CHAN GURNEY, South Dakota, Chairman

STYLES BRIDGES, New Hampshire
EDWARD V. ROBERTSON, Wyoming
GEORGE A. WILSON, Iowa

LEVERETT SALTONSTALL, Massachusetts
WAYNE MORSE, Oregon

RAYMOND E. BALDWIN, Connecticut

MILLARD E. TYDINGS, Maryland
RICHARD B. RUSSELL, Georgia
HARRY FLOOD BYRD, Virginia
LISTER HILL, Alabama

HARLEY M. KILGORE, West Virginia

BURNET R. MAYBANK, South Carolina

JOHN G. ADAMS, Clerk

CONTENTS

Statements of

Page

Carney, Vice Adm. Robert B., Deputy Chief of Naval Operations
(logistics).

298-310'

Grow, Maj. Gen. Malcolm C., Air Surgeon, Army Air Forces -
Hart, Hon. Thomas C., former United States Senator from the State
of Connecticut_

409-472

377

Kenney, Hon. W. John, Assistant Secretary of the Navy-
Kirk, Maj. Gen. Norman T., Surgeon General, United States Army.. 398-486
Maas, Melvin J., president, Marine Reserve Officers Association....
Norstad, Maj. Gen. Lauris, Director of Plans and Operations Division,
War Department..

247-278

447

303

347

Royall, Hon. Kenneth C., Under Secretary of War.

Swanson, Rear Adm. Clifford A., Surgeon General, United States.
Navy..

461-484

Vandegrift, Gen. A. A., Commandant, United States Marine Corps 411-433

April 8, 1947:

CONTENTS BY DATES

Statement of Assistant Secretary of the Navy, W. John Kenney
(incomplete) -

247

Insertion: Speech by the Honorable Oliver Lyttleton before the House
of Commons on October 30, 1946, on plans for central organization
for defense.

259

April 9, 1947:

Insertion: Editorial, Washington Post, "Merger Security".
Statement of Assistant Secretary of the Navy, W. John Kenney
(resumed)

277

278

Insertion: Article by David Lawrence entitled "Move to Undermine
Marine Corps Is Seen"

296.

Statement of Vice Adm. Robert B. Carney, Deputy Chief of Naval
Operations (logistics) (incomplete)--

298.

Statement of Maj. Gen. Lauris Norstad, Director of Plans and Opera-
tions Division, War Department.

303.

Statement of Vice Adm. Robert B. Carney, Deputy Chief of Naval
Operations (logistics) (resumed and completed) -

310

Excerpts from testimony given by Gen. George C. Marshall, Chief of
Staff, before Military Affairs Committee in the Seventy-ninth
Congress (1945).

311

A unified logistic support plan for the National Defense Establish-
ment (prepared by the Navy Department).

332

Chart of National Defense Establishment, logistic support plan
(showing details within Navy Department)..

facing 346

April 15, 1947:

Statement of Hon. Kenneth C. Royall, Under Secretary of War---- 347
Organization Chart of National Defense Establishment...

facing 369

April 18, 1947:

Statement of Hon. Thomas C. Hart, former United States Senator
from the State of Connecticut.

377

Statement of Maj. Gen. Norman T. Kirk, Surgeon General, United
States Army-

398

Chart giving General Kirk's plan for functioning of Medical Services
in National Defense Establishment.

408.

April 22, 1947:

Statement of Maj. Gen. Malcolm C. Grow, Air Surgeon, Army Air
Forces (incomplete).

409

Statement of Gen. A. A. Vandegrift, Commandant, United States
Marine Corps (incomplete) -

411

April 24, 1947:

Page

Statement of Gen. A. A. Vandegrift, Commandant, United States
Marine Corps (resumed and completed) ---

433

Statement of Melvin J. Maas, president, Marine Reserve Officers Association, Washington, D. C..

447

Insertion: Letter of Hon. Henry L. Stimson, former Secretary of War, dated April 21, 1947

457

April 25, 1947:

Statement of Rear Adm. Clifford A. Swanson, Surgeon General,
United States Navy (incomplete) -

Chart showing proposed Navy plan for coordination of the Medical
Services as proposed in connection with the National Security Act
of 1947.

461

facing 464

Personal statement of Maj. Gen. Malcolm C. Grow, Air Surgeon,
Army Air Forces...

Chart showing proposed Air Force plan for coordination of the Medical
Services in the National Defense Establishment_.

472

476

482, 483

Insertion: Statement of Navy, Army, and Air Force regarding present
and prospective situation as regards medical personnel..
Statement of Rear Adm. Clifford A. Swanson, Surgeon General,
United States Navy (resumed and completed).

Brief submitted by Maj. Gen. Norman T. Kirk, re establishment of a
single medical service...

484

486

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