RESTRICTING MANPOWER POOL General HERSHEY. I think there is no question about the fac when you restrict the manpower pool solely to those under 26 year of age and solely to those who are nonveterans and solely to those who are nonveterans even in the restricted age of 26 and not only farmers but townsmen and everybody else under 26 who have medica deficiencies, and concerning those, you won't call them until you take the group between 35 and 40. NUMBER OF DEFERMENTS The other thing is we do have almost 90,000 now deferred as farmers and about 25,000 deferred for all sorts of industrial or skilled people. That includes physicians, dentists, and so forth. It is pretty near four times as many. I do not think there is any question but what we have to increase the number of deferments for farmers. I won't argue with you for a minute on that, because I think we have to. CONSIDERATION OF CASES NOT BEING GIVEN AS IN WORLD WAR II Mr. PHILLIPS. In the case you mentioned, while your agency lost him for the purpose of induction, he got into the Army; but we recently had in my office two serious cases of family.illness. In one case the farm was dumped back on the farmer, and the farmer had a broken back. That is the Scott case. We got no sympathy on that. apparently, from either Selective Service or the Army, and in World War II we would have. At the least, we would have been able to get that boy back temporarily to try to operate that farm. In both cases the Red Cross wrote to the Government here. So I am just saying, as to the system, my office has found we are having greater difficulty in the few cases we bring to you. LOCAL BOARD MEMBERS IN GENERAL OPPOSE DEFERMENTS General HERSHEY. I think you are right, because the men who compose the board would go in in their twenties or in their thirties or once in a while in their forties and those people do not think anybody should be deferred. But now the fellows we are arguing about are in a very collateral field. I think if you have some local board members who are World War veterans, they are tough, because they went, and for that reason they think other people should go. RECOMMENDATIONS OF LOCAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES NOT CONSIDERED Mr. PHILLIPS. You are not talking about the same thing I am talking about. I recognize that situation. I am in favor of that. I am not in favor of a general exemption of boys on farms; I am in favor only of some cases where the local people demand it. You say the local board is not favorable to keeping men out of the Army: they are favorable to sending them in, because they served in World War II. General HERSHEY. No. Mr. PHILLIPS. I am talking about the local boards and local advisory committees that say a man should not go, but you send him, and the Army won't let him out. General HERSHEY. How did this boy get into 1-A if the local board did not put him in 1–A. Was he a reservist? Mr. PHILLIPS. I do not know whether he was or not. I think the local board put him in and the Army was asked to send him back afterward. Genera HERSHEY. I would not argue at all but what you are right. One of the things I have been bedeviling my boards with Mr. PHILLIPS. The second case is the Edmondston case. The local board put him in. General HERSHEY. Yes. I have some local boards that won't defer anybody because, if they do, they have to defer everybody. Mr. PHILLIPS. Then why don't they, if a condition is shown in which the local advisory board advises, the Red Cross advises, and all of the other people do the very things you say ought to be done? Why do we have it? Why don't we say everybody goes in willy-nilly and there are no exemptions? General HERSHEY. I do not say they do not do something. I have been fooling around with the Red Cross a little bit, and was at a Red Cross meeting last night. One of the things we feel critical about now is when you ask the Red Cross about a hardship recommendation, the chances are about 9 out of 10 that that will come in. Mr. PHILLIPS. Not in my county they don t. It is tougher than to find chickens' teeth. That is the reason we were disturbed by these cases because, first of all, we have always analyzed the cases ourselves, and we have turned down many, many times cases that were never sent to you and, second, these were cases worse than cases that were favorably acted on in World War II and the recommendations were all in favor of some relief and they did not get it. General HERSHEY. It may very well be that we are in error. interested in seeing it done. (Discussion off the record.) AUTOMOBILES I am Mr. PHILLIPS. Of the 110 automobiles, how many are used in Washington? General HERSHEY. Five. Mr. THOMAS. Thank you, gentlemen, very much. It is always nice to see you, General-you and your staff, You have a lot of headaches. TUESDAY, JANUARY 22, 1952. NATIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR AERONAUTICS WITNESSES DR. JEROME C. HUNSAKER, CHAIRMAN REAR ADM. THEODORE C. LONNQUEST, UNITED STATES NAVY, DEPUTY AND ASSISTANT CHIEF OF THE BUREAU OF AERONAUTICS MAJ. GEN. DONALD L. PUTT, UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, VICE COMMANDER, AIR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT COMMAND DR. HUGH L. DRYDEN, DIRECTOR DR. JOHN F. VICTORY, EXECUTIVE SECRETARY JOHN W. CROWLEY, ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR FOR RESEARCH I. H. ABBOTT, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR RESEARCH A. M. ROTHROCK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR RESEARCH E. H. CHAMBERLIN, EXECUTIVE OFFICER RALPH E. ULMER, BUDGET OFFICER JOHN STACK, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF RESEARCH, LANGLEY AERONAUTICAL LABORATORY |