the problems and traditions of other peoples and increase the language skills of our students here? I know that you must need more language skills over there. Do you recommend that our schools here should place greater emphasis on foreign language instruction in their curriculum? Mr. VAUGHN. We do with vigor. We have had many frustrations with our educational institutions because what we feel we need is practical, realistic training and not 150 hours of lectures. We think the volunteer should be involved and should have practice teaching and go out and work in slums for a month rather than having a lecture on social welfare. This is hard to come by in our educational system. Mrs. KELLY. You want our people to go into slums in other countries, is that it? Mr. VAUGHN. A very high percentage do live in slums. We have almost a thousand in Latin America. Mrs. KELLY. I wish we could change the slums in our own country. The situation is getting worse as far as I can see. What about the exchange students from Latin America and Africa? Did I understand you to say that there are very few exchange students from those countries in the Fulbright-Hays program? Did I deduce that? Mr. VAUGHN. From the report I have here there were no teachers proposed from either Africa or Latin America. Mrs. KELLY. You mean in the Fulbright-Hays exchange program? Mrs. KELLY. Have there ever been? I don't know. Mr. HAYS. Will you yield to me? You had better get a new report, because I can name you at least a half dozen teachers from Latin America that are here right now. I know of three in my own State. Mrs. KELLY. Thank you, Mr. Hays. Mr. VAUGHN. I was talking about the proposed Mrs. KELLY. This is my time, now, Mr. Chairman. What about the use of local currency? Are you using any local currency? Mr. VAUGHN. We not only use local currencies whenever and wherever available, but in our contracts for overseas support, say with universities, we have a clause, a standard clause, that requires them to look to see if there are local currencies available before they expend dollars. Mrs. KELLY. Could we get a breakdown of that, or is it in the books? If you will tell me what page it is on. Mr. VAUGHN. We can give you a breakdown. Mrs. KELLY. Would you just mention a couple of countries for me? Mr. VAUGHN. It is not on a country basis. Mrs. KELLY. Do you want that for the record, Mr. Chairman? Chairman MORGAN. You can supply it for the record, if you want to save time, Mrs. Kelly. 66-561-66 THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN LIBRARIES (The information follows:) Use by the Peace Corps of foreign currencies available to United States 1 Date on which country was placed in and/or removed from category. Mrs. KELLY. Is my time up? Mrs. KELLY. All I will say is I hope this program will be in a position to have the overwhelming support from the House that it had in the past. Chairman MORGAN. Mr. Adair. Mr. ADAIR. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Vaughn, nice to see you this morning. I would like to comment upon a point that Mrs. Bolton made. I was a little surprised to hear you say that we do not now have people in East Pakistan although you explained why. I recall in I believe 1961 we had one of our early groups there consisting of some teachers, some nurses, a librarian or two, some construction workers, et cetera. I had the impression that apart from a little difficulty with Bengali language at first, which I think is understandable, that they were doing a pretty good job there. While I realize you have security problems, I would certainly think that this ought to be a fruitful area for further participation in the program. Mr. VAUGHN. Thank you; I agree. Mr. ADAIR. I have here in my hand a chart which has come from your office at the request of ourselves or the staff here-salary levels of Peace Corps employees on June 30, 1966. From personal conversations between you and me, you are aware that this has been a matter of particular concern to me. The number of people in the Peace Corps establishment who are drawing salaries above $12,000 a year, and I note that on June 30, 1966, there were 258 people drawing salaries between $12,000 and $28,500. I am going to make it a part of the record, and I want to make sure you think it is a valid chart. Mr. VAUGHN. Yes. Mr. ADAIR. We have had put alongside this the number of people in these salary levels for the preceding fiscal year or as of I think April 30 of 1965. I am going to ask, Mr. Chairman, this be made a part of the record. Chairman MORGAN. Without objection it is so ordered. Salary levels of Peace Corps employees [The following table shows the number of Peace Corps employees who have earned in excess of $12,000 in 1963 through 1966. It should be noted that on June 30, 1963, the lowest grade paying $12,000 or more was GS-13/4 (FSR-4/4) while on June 30, 1966, it was GS-12/4 (FSR-5/5)] Mr. ADAIR. I am concerned because apparently in this last year if these figures here are correct, the number of people in the Peace Corps earning salaries from $12,000 to $28,500 has risen by 20. This chart I have shows on April 30, 1965, we had 238 people in such category. As of June 30, 1966, we had 258 people in that category. I just want again to express my concern, even though you have pointed out to us that the overall cost of your authorization request is lower this year by something more than $2 million and that your cost of training volunteers is going down. I want to be very sure that you are aware of the fact that at least some of us here are concerned about this apparent topheavy establishment in the Corps. Do you have any comment upon that? Mr. VAUGHN. I do, Mr. Adair. I think if you look at the record over the past 3 years-I have here a chart which shows the numbers of Peace Corps staff earning above $12,000 as of June 30, 1963, 1964, 1965, and now we have 1966. Mr. ADAIR. Mr. Chairman, then I would ask that that chart be the one put in the hearings in place of the one I have here. Mr. VAUGHN. All right. What I would like to point out, Mr. Congressman, is that the increase in this past year has been smaller THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN LIBRARIES than any of the previous years. Most of the increase has been attributable to positions overseas. I think that we need the best men in the United States running our Peace Corps programs overseas because they are to a very high degree on their own. Secondly, I don't think that this is a realistic base to calculate from because if you compare the grade of a man earning $12,000 in 1963 with the grade of a man earning $12,000 in 1966 you see it is quite different because there have been almost annual increases in salary. I think we need a more realistic comparison because people today who are making $12,000 a year are in categories lower than those included in 1963. Mr. ADAIR. Is this a matter of continuing study within your office or the Peace Corps? Mr. VAUGHN. Yes, and with me personally. Mr. ADAIR. I would urge that it continue to be so because I am concerned. Chairman MORGAN. Do you still wish to substitute the chart? Mr. ADAIR. Yes, I think his is more extensive than the one I hold in my hand. I would like to look at it. The one that would be more extensive I would like to include in the record. Chairman MORGAN. Without objection. Mr. ADAIR. Do you have a chart showing by numbers and countries the number of volunteers and administrators serving throughout the world as of last June 30 or could that be prepared? Mr. VAUGHN. Yes, we can get it. Mr. ADAIR. Along with it a chart showing the numbers and countries throughout the world proposed for the end of this fiscal year now, fiscal 1967? Mr. VAUGHN. Fine. Mr. ADAIR. If you don't have that, could that be prepared? here. Chairman MORGAN. Without objection, it is so ordered. Peace Corps volunteers and staff in host country-Continued NOTE-Tentative estimates only. The Peace Corps is currently reviewing overseas staff requirements in the light of its increased volunteer strength, new country additions, and a reconsideration of existing staffing patterns. Further revisions may be required in the future as a result of this review. Mr. VAUGHN. This would be the number of volunteers and overseas staff by country, June 30, this year, June 30, next year? Mr. ADAIR. Yes; broken down as between volunteers and administrators of each country so we can have something to look at and get an overall picture. Mr. GROSS. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. ADAIR. Yes. Mr. GROSS. Could we not have that before these hearings are concluded? Mr. VAUGHN. Yes, sir. Mr. ADAIR. Finally, I find myself in a little difficulty of definition here. Would you please explain to me the differences in these terms: The national voluntary service program, the partnership exchange program, and the exchange Peace Corps? I am confused as to what each of those things means specifically. Could you help us on that? Mr. VAUGHN. The national voluntary service program is a small |