LEGISLATIVE BRANCH APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 1967 FRIDAY, JUNE 17, 1966 U.S. SENATE, SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 10 a.m., in room 1223, New Senate Office Building, Hon. A. S. Mike Monroney, chairman, presiding. Present: Senators Monroney, Proxmire, and Yarborough; also present, Senator Williams of Delaware. U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE STATEMENT OF JAMES L. HARRISON, PUBLIC PRINTER; ACCOMPANIED BY HARRY D. MEROLD, DEPUTY PUBLIC PRINTER; HARRY J. HUMPHREY, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE PUBLIC PRINTER; AND EARL M. CRAGG, DEPUTY COMPTROLLER BUDGET REQUEST AND HOUSE ALLOWANCE Senator MONRONEY. The Subcommittee on Legislative Appropriations will resume its hearings. We are glad to welcome our distinguished Public Printer, Mr. James Harrison, here as our first witness. We will now consider the budget requests for the Government Printing Office, for which a total of $47,655,900 is requested, with the House allowing $42,655,900. SUBMISSION OF TABLES FOR RECORD Before you proceed with your statement, I am asking that several tables be placed in the record, since this information is pertinent to the testimony to be presented and of importance in completing the record. (The tables follow:) 91 CONGRESSIONAL PRINTING AND BINDING Statement of expenditures for fiscal year 1965 billed through Jan. 31, 1966, estimated outstanding fiscal year 1965 obligations as of Jan. 31, 1966, estimated expenditures for fiscal years 1965, 1966, and 1967, estimated deficiency for fiscal year 1965, and total estimated requirements for fiscal year 1967 3,818, 003 233, 616 1,060, 000 4,051, 619 3,800,000 4,400,000 485,000 4,885,000 11. Federal Register, U.S. Government Organization Manual and Public Papers of the Presidents. 12. Supplements to Code of Federal Regulations.. 1 Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents is included in this figure. 2 $18,000,000 appropriated (Public Law 88-454, 88th Cong.) to cover $200,000 estimated deficiency for fiscal year 1962, $2,300,000 estimated deficiency for fiscal year 1963, and $15,500,000 estimated expenditure for fiscal year 1965. In addition to the $15,500,000 appropriated for fiscal year 1965 obligations, there is a $3,000,000 deficit which is included in the fiscal year 1957 estimated requirements. 3 $20,500,000 appropriated (Public Law 89-90, 89th Cong.) to cover $600,000 estimated deficiency for fiscal year 1953, $3,400,000 estimated deficiency for fiscal year 1964, and $16,500,000 estimated expenditures for fiscal year 1966. Total. NOTE.-Separation of total expenditures by printing and binding operations and sales of publications operations is not available prior to fiscal year 1963. Intrafund expenditures consist of expenditures incurred by printing and binding operations on behalf of the sales of publications operations. Senator MONRONEY. Are you appealing the House reduction, which seems to be in the neighborhood of about $5 million? Mr. HARRISON. No, sir. Senator MONRONEY. What was that amount cut from? Mr. HARRISON. That was cut from the request for an increase in our working capital fund. Senator MONRONEY. The budget estimate for the revolving fund was million, the House allowance was $15 million; is that correct? Mr. HARRISON. Yes, sir. Senator MONRONEY. You had $15 million last year? Mr. HARRISON. No, we didn't, Mr. Chairman. We have not had an increase in our working capital fund since 1963. Senator MONRONEY. It has been $15 million? Mr. HARRISON. It was $10 million then. Senator MONRONEY. What the House allowed would make it $15 million? Mr. HARRISON. What they allowed this year, yes. PERIODIC REPORTS ON PRINTING BILLINGS Senator MONRONEY. The conference report on the legislative appropriation bill last year concurred in the recommendations in the House and Senate reports on the bill and directed the Public Printer to report periodically on the costs of billings for work completed for Congress. In the Senate debate on July 12 last year, I inserted into the Congressional Record a table which was to be used as a model giving the proposed breakdown of congressional charges. The House report this year has pointed out that the format agreed to by the conferees last year has not been followed and, furthermore, that the reports have been made to the Joint Committee on Printing rather than to the ordering office or committee. The House report points out that these reports are apt to be of less than full value unless they go frequently to those who created the obligation. What do you plan to do in this regard, Mr. Harrison, in the new fiscal year? JOINT COMMITTEE ON PRINTING DIRECTIONS Mr. HARRISON. We stand ready, Mr. Chairman, to do what we are directed to do. Last year when we compiled the original report which contained a great many what appeared to be insignificant costs at great expense to the Office, we consulted the Joint Committee on Printing. At the hearing last year, the joint committee was brought into this. They directed us by letter dated November 2, 1965, which appeared in the House hearings, to include in this report five major items: calendars, hearings, committee prints, printing authorized by the Joint Committee on Printing, and printing authorized by simple and concurrent resolutions, and directed we send them three copies of the report. We have been doing that since the report started. We stand ready to change this procedure as we might be directed to do. Senator MONRONEY. Does the committee have a copy of that report? Mr. SCOTT. No, sir. The only portion of that report, furnished to the Committee on Appropriations, relates to printing for the Committee on Appropriations. Senator MONRONEY. It does not include the entire congressional costs? Mr. SCOTT. No, sir. Mr. HARRISON. We have supplied three copies of all these reports which included all costs incurred under these five categories to the Joint Committee on Printing. I assume that they have been making this distribution. 64-638-66- -7 |