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1965 was 104.

The average number per Senator was 203, and the median per Senator was 140.

Senator PROXMIRE. What line is this?

Mr. JAYSON. This is table III of this tabulation I have handed you. Senator PROXMIRE. I see. OK.

Mr. JAYSON. You see, the average number per Senator in fiscal 1965, which is the column of the right, is 203, and the median per Senator is 140.

COMPUTERIZED BREAKDOWN

In connection with the statement by the House committee about inordinate use of the Service by some Members, we have a computerized breakdown of the use by every Member. Obviously there are certain confidential features that are involved. But we made a computation of the total use by all Members in terms of the total number of inquiries that each submitted to us.

We then took the 10 highest in each House, and, if I may come over and show you what I am talking about

Senator PROXMIRE. You are talking about constituent inquiries?

Mr. JAYSON. I am talking about both. There is a breakdown of Member and constituent inquiries in the computerized tabulation. But in the first listing I show you here-ignore this right column, which is a coded identification only-in the left column of the Senate listing are the total number of inquiries asked by each Member. Senator MONRONEY. Starting with the high?

Mr. JAYSON. Starting with a high, going down to a low, and on the House side there is also a listing starting with a high and going to a low.

Every Member uses the LRS at one time or another. We have a computerized breakdown of use by every Member. This sample computerized page of a Member's use of LRS shows the nature of our response to the inquiry, whether it was a report or a memorandum, or a draft statement, or a translation, and so on.

OUTLINES FOR SPEECHES

Senator MONRONEY. What do draft statements mean? Speeches? Mr. JAYSON. Yes, or outlines for speeches. We have three categories. One is short statements, like a nationality day, eulogy, or congratulatory message; the second is a statement used for legislative matters, such as a statement made before a committee or on the House or the Senate floor; and the third covers all other statements of a substantial nature. These other code numbers represent responses which are translations, graphic materials, letters, that is, where we respond by letter. These other numbers show where we respond by previously prepared LRS reports, also where we respond with general materials like pamphlets, books, reports, and so forth. Finally, there are code numbers for consultations, telephone calls, and photocopies. What I have been trying to say is that if you take the 10 with the highest total in each House, and with the exception of 1 Member who for unusual reasons is exceptional

Senator MONRONEY. Present company excepted.

NUMBERS OF INQUIRY

Mr. JAYSON. I mean by reason of the demands made upon him. If you look to see what the greatest use is you will find that the large number of inquiries really does not amount to a large amount of work. They relate to responses by materials, or they relate to constituent inquiries.

All or most are within this first-time category, first- or second-time category, of requiring only 15 minutes to respond or up to 1 hour to respond. These I am pointing to on this page are the constituent inquiries, 15 minutes to respond, or up to 1 hour to respond.

If you go through the top 10 you will find this same concentration of short response time throughout.

Senator MONRONEY. Of constituent inquiries?

Mr. JAYSON. That is where the larger numbers are.

Senator MONRONEY. Yes, numbers of inquiry, but the time lapse is not as great.

Mr. JAYSON. What do we conclude from this? We conclude from this the fact that the number of times that they use LRS is not a true measure of inordinate use or of excessive use. If you struck out constituent inquiries entirely, it wouldn't amount to very much.

MAIN WORKLOAD

Our real workload is on the Member side.
Senator MONRONEY. That is where it should be.

Mr. JAYSON. Or on the committee side. But we just don't have the time to do the depth of research that we want.

Senator MONRONEY. You show, for example, in table 2 for this 1965 calendar year out of the total of 113,000 requests that your total written requests, that is, specialized answers, to Members is 15,467, and that the previously prepared material by LRS in reports or photocopies was 77,000 in 1958.

I presume most of those from these figures you have just shown us were such as constituent requests that could be handled in the 15minute time period.

Mr. JAYSON. That is right, sir.

BURDEN OF RESEARCH

Senator MONRONEY. So your actual burden of your research work is still on preparing and getting the new material, reports, and draft statements, translations, et cetera, of the 15,476 requests.

Mr. JAYSON. That is right.

Mrs. HAMER. Many times we have to furnish material when we really should furnish individual assistance.

Mr. JAYSON. Yes, where we simply don't have the time to do research.

Senator MONRONEY. But you distinguish between that. I have become disgusted many times with the LRS, although I helped to sponsor it originally, after getting a package of mimeographed papers and four or five books with bookmarks stuck in them.

Mr. JAYSON. And the reason for that is that our people have just been so jammed up with backlogs that often they haven't had the time

to meet a particular Member's request except in that way if they are to get it out within the deadline.

I am sure, certainly I would hope, that you have also had some experience where we have helped you with research in depth.

Senator MONRONEY. That is true, but at other times it comes through and you think, well, this is something that you have sent an office boy to pick up. You are sending reference books or mimeographed material so old and so general that any Member would be ashamed to use it in any floor presentation.

BUILDUP OF STAFF

Mr. JAYSON. This is the reason why we want to build our staff where we can do a good job.

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Senator MONRONEY. I think Congress wants to build your staff up, too, and we want to be sure we are building a staff up for the heavy duties of Congress rather than frivelous items.

Incidentally, one of the peculiar mysteries, and I don't think it obtains any longer, was that the books we used to get from the Legislative Reference Service all came over wrapped in the daily racing form.

Senator PROXMIRE. Wrapped in the daily racing form?

Senator MONRONEY. Yes.

Mr. JAYSON. I would say this came from the loan division.

Senator MONRONEY. I just wondered where all this research was going.

WORK OF SCIENCE POLICY RESEARCH DIVISION

Mr. JAYSON. Let me mention, Senator, again, about our work for committees and the like. The Science Policy Research Division, which was just organized about a year and a half ago, during a 12-month period up to April handled 940 Members' inquiries from 48 different Senators, 120 different Congressmen, 16 subcommittees, plus constituent inquiries.

It rendered direct assistance with 12 different committee hearings. It had almost 300 personal consultations with Members and their staff and prepared several very major studies that have been published as House and Senate documents and have had direct impact on the laws. This is within a very brief period and by one division.

The latest paper that they have prepared is this committee document entitled "Policy Planning for Aeronautic Research and Development." They also prepared reports about the National Science Foundation, and studies on weather research and the like, so we do find our staff doing a great deal for committees, but not as much they would like.

CONTINUING WORKLOAD WHEN CONGRESS IS NOT IN SESSION

Senator MONRONEY. You show here month by month the continuing workload in the months that Congress is obviously out of session. Does that mean that Members are writing from their home States to get research information that they do not find available there, or from their Washington offices?

Mr. JAYSON. This comes both ways. Their staffs are here. The com›ittees are still here and the inquiries pour in. This was a remarkable f monthly figures during this past calendar year.

I might also mention that we expect an even greater impact next year, what with the authorization for 435 new staff people that has been added to the House staff very recently.

Senator PROXMIRE. You find as the staffs increase that your work increases?

Mr. JAYSON. Directly, because these staff people have assignments. They have to do research and they turn to us for help also, and very legitimately.

Senator PROXMIRE. So if we increased the staff of the Judiciary Committee to handle this kind of thing, instead of having them take over this kind of inquiry on housing legislation they are more likely than ever to turn to you?

IMPACT OF INTERNS

Mr. JAYSON. Not necessarily, but we do implement their staff and we act on the assumption that the better informed the member or the committee is, in the long run the better legislative decision they are going to make. We do find that, when you bring in let us say a thousand interns on the Hill such as we are having this summer, it will have an enormous impact on us, because they come to us for guidance. They come to us for materials and they are working on projects for the members that the member couldn't otherwise have done if he didn't have the manpower in his office implemented by what the Library of Congress can do.

Senator PROXMIRE. Except that it is one thing for an intern or a staff member to come to a library for material. It is something else to request a study of some kind be done or that this kind of work be done that the Judiciary Committee requested that you do.

It seems to me a great deal of that could have been done by members of the staff of the Judiciary Committee.

Mr. JAYSON. But they were involved in other things in taking care of other aspects of the problems that they had. Of course, we are never in a position to question an office or a committee when they ask us for help. We can't just say, "Well, do it yourself." Our very reason for being is to give the assistance.

BREAKDOWN OF COMMITTEE AND MEMBER REQUESTS

Senator PROXMIRE. Do you have a breakdown of the requests between the committees and the members in terms of hours as well asMr. JAYSON. Yes, the chart I showed you before.

Senator PROXMIRE. Is that in here?

Mr. JAYSON. No. Here is a copy.

During the calendar year 1965, when we had a total of 53,000-plus member and committee inquiries, of that, 45,000 were member inquiries and 8,000 were committee inquiries.

Senator PROXMIRE. Do committee inquiries tend to take longer? Mr. JAYSON. Generally, yes. Some of these studies involve a great deal of time.

Senator MONRONEY. Would you like that put in here?
Senatord PROXMIRE. I think it would be helpful.

SUBMISSION OF TABLES AND SUMMARY

Senator MONRONEY. I would like to put tables 1, 2, and 3, and also the breakdown or summary of those and also the breakdown of in

quiries answered in fiscal year 1965 from members, committees, constituents, and total.

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