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SALARIES OF FOREMAN AND SKILLED LABORERS

Senator MONRONEY. Mr. Duke, the Sergeant at Arms, has written to me recommending that the salary of the foreman of skilled laborers and two skilled laborers receive an increase in compensation. The total cost would be $1,508 per annum.

I will insert the letter in the record and, Mr. Cheatham, you may proceed to explain this recommendation to the committee. (The letter referred to follows:)

Hon. A. S. MIKE MONRONEY,

U.S. SENATE,

OFFICE OF THE SERGEANT AT ARMS,
Washington, D.C., June 14, 1965.

Chairman, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch Appropriations, Committee on Appropriations, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C.

DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: There are serious inequities in the compensation of three positions under my office which I hope your committee will correct in the current legislative appropriation bill.

One is entitled "Foreman of skilled laborers," and the other two are "Skilled laborers." The foreman receives a per annum salary of $2,100 basic and $5,756 gross. Each of the others receives $1,920 basic and $5,284 gross.

Other Government agencies pay considerably more for the same type of work. In a military facility these places are graded as wage board 7 which, in this area, has a starting salary for a 44-hour week of $6,315, and at the end of the first 6 months is increased to $6,650, with a second increase at the end of the next 18 months to $6,985. House employees rendering identical services also receive more than $1,000 in excess of these Senate employees.

I strongly recommend each of the three men be increased as follows:

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Language to be inserted in the legislative appropriation bill, 1966, to effect these recommended increases is suggested as follows:

Provided, That, effective July 1, 1965, the basic per annum compensation of the foreman of skilled laborers shall be $2,340 in lieu of $2,100; and the basic per annum compensation of two skilled laborers shall be $2,100 in lieu of $1,920. With kind regards.

Sincerely,

(Discussion off the record.)

SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

JOSEPH C. DUKE,

Sergeant at Arms.

Senator MONRONEY. The subcommittee will stand in recess until 10 o'clock Thursday morning.

(Whereupon, at 6:30 p.m., Tuesday, June 15, 1965, the hearings were recessed, to reconvene at 10 a.m., on Thursday, June 17, 1965.)

LEGISLATIVE BRANCH APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1966

THURSDAY, JUNE 17, 1965

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 10 a.m., pursuant to recess, in room 1223, New Senate Office Building, Hon. A. S. Mike Monroney, chairman of the subcommittee, presiding.

Present: Senators Monroney, Chairman Hayden, Proxmire, and Yarborough.

JOINT COMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION AND
NATIONALITY POLICY

STATEMENT OF HON. EMANUEL CELLER, A U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE STATE OF NEW YORK

OPPOSITION TO BUDGET REQUEST

Senator MONRONEY. The Subcommittee on Appropriations will be in session.

We are honored today to have the distinguished chairman of the House Judiciary Committee here. Have the other witnesses for the other side appeared? Are they here?

Mr. Scorr. No, sir. Mr. Feighan has a hearing this morning, and he would like to come at 2 o'clock this afternoon.

Senator MONRONEY. We won't be able to have a hearing this afternoon. We have a bill on the floor of the Senate.

We are happy to hear you, Chairman Celler, and you may proceed in your own way.

Representative CELLER. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. It is like coming home when I see all of you boys here. A good many of you formerly served with me in the House. You have graduated, and I am still there.

Senator MONRONEY. You are still running the Judiciary Committee. Representative CELLER. I try, anyhow.

Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, I appreciate deeply the opportunity you have given me to appear in opposition to the item in the legislative appropriations budget for 1966 to provide $120,286.64 for the so-called Joint Committee on Immigration and Nationality Policy.

HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE

As chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary, I, naturally, as all chairman do, guard zealously the jurisdictions of the full committee.

I am certain that the members of this subcommittee are familiar with the report of the House Appropriations Committee. In discussing the $120,286 amount they put into the budget for this joint committee, the House Appropriations Committee was most careful to indicate that it neither approved nor disapproved this item. It sort of wanted the House to decide. They put the item in with sort of tongue in cheek.

I regret, frankly, that I did not appear before the House Appropriations Committee. A reading of the testimony given by my distinguished colleague of the Judiciary Committee, the chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization, in support of this item reveals that he did not face the issue, but rather indulged himself in an attack on personalities, including members of the staff and unfortunately myself.

I had no wish to dignify such testimony by replying. I thought it would be well to give them the thunder of my silence. I admit my error. I should have thus appeared and set the record straight on the issue. I wish to set the record straight now.

INACTIVITY OF 15-YEAR-OLD JOINT COMMITTEE

Since the enactment of section 401 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, that joint committee which was set up as you see over 15 years ago, met once and only for about 4 minutes. It has not met since in all of these years, despite the fact that in the 88th Congress, the gentleman from Ohio, Mr. Feighan, had reconstructed it and had a staff director appointed therefor. He did this rather in a circuitous way. He sent around to the members of the committee a roundrobin letter, wherein they had agreed to have him appointed as chairman, and one of his henchmen appointed as clerk at a $20,000 appropriation. Most of the members of the committee refused to sign it, but he did get, I think it was Jim Eastland, John McClellan, and Senator Dirksen, to sign it because as I afterwards learned from them, they did not feel they had any interest in the matter whatsoever. Not a single meeting was called in the 88th Congress, however. Not a single item was set forth for consideration. Not a single hearing was held. Not a single study was produced.

Some might say that since only some $20,000 was appropriated for the use of this joint committee, the work could not proceed.

STAFF MEMBERS ACCESSIBLE TO CONGRESSMAN FEIGHAN

Senator MONRONEY. How many staff members do they have? Representative CELLER. They have only one staff member. Senator MONRONEY. They have access to the Library of Congress, of course.

Representative CELLER. They had access to the staff of the Judiciary Committee.

Senator MONRONEY. How many staff members do you have?
Representative CELLER. They have five staff members.

Senator MONRONEY. That is on the full Judiciary Committee? Representative CELLER. No; of the subcommittee only, and on the full Judiciary Committee there are about 12 other staff members.

Senator MONRONEY. What I am trying to get at is the number of staff today in existence on the subcommittee that Mr. Feighan has

access to.

Representative CELLER. He has access to about 12 different staff members of the full committee, and he has on his committee, 6, 3, professionals and 3 stenographers. The three professionals are on his own staff.

Senator MONRONEY. That is the subcommittee on what?

Representative CELLER. On immigration. And then on the staff of the full committee, which is open to him, he has these others.

INACTIVITY OF JOINT COMMITTEE

As I said, not a single study was produced. Some might say that since only $20,000 was appropriated for the use of this joint committee, work could not proceed. It takes no money to call a meeting. It takes no money to produce agenda for presentation to members. It takes no money to hold hearings. It takes no money to set forth a plan of study, particularly when there is a highly paid staff director receiving $20,000 a year. The calling of witnesses costs no money. I repeat that the committee has not functioned either in the 88th Congress or the Congresses before that. Why the need now?

TASKS TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY JOINT COMMITTEE

On June 8, when the gentleman rose in support of this item, he stated that these were the major tasks which the joint committee will undertake in the year ahead:

First. A thorough study and review of all nonquota provisions of law, particularly the present and future outcomes of nonquota immigration from the independent countries of the Western Hemisphere.

Second. A study of advisory options of the Bureau of Security and Consular Affairs, Department of State, to determine whether this administrative practice is setting policy which is not authorized by law or covered by expressed congressional intent.

Third. A study of the education exchange program to determine whether that program is being used as a subterfuge by people to gain immigrant status and benefits.

Fourth. A complete study of nonimmigrant worker classes, in light of the current needs of the United States.

Fifth. A study of the so-called communter class of aliens and their relation current needs of the United States.

Sixth. A complete review of the general grounds of exclusion and deportation of aliens. There has been no review of these matters since the law was enacted in 1952.

There is need to determine whether the authorized grounds for exclusion and deportation are realistic in light of experience over the past 13 years.

APPROPRIATE WORK FOR SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION

There is not a one of those items that could not be done efficiently and adequately by the Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization.

There is not one of those items that could not be done by the able. members of that committee associated with Mr. Feighan and his expert staff.

The records are there, and the knowledge is there, and he can get

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all of the aid he wants from the Department of State and from the Department of Justice. The jurisdiction is there.

Why are we called upon to spend additional sums to duplicate work which can best be done within the subcommittee? Indeed, some of the work has already been done.

STUDIES OF SOME MATTERS PREVIOUSLY MADE BY SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION

I have right here before me 15 or 16 studies covering these very matters that I just related. They are right here now. They have never been used by the gentleman from Ohio. They are studies that were made in 1962 and 1963. They cover the same subjects he speaks of. Why go over all of this all over again at large expense? It doesn't make sense. It is a useless expenditure of money.

I would like to leave these wtih the committee so that they can peruse some of them.

I am going to read what they are. These were prepared by the predecessor of Mr. Feighan, the late lamented Francis Walter, and the studies were continued by the subcommittee under the aegis of Mr. Feighan.

I will give you some of the names and the subjects covered by these studies to show you how exhaustive can be the studies made by the Subcommittee on Immigration in the Judiciary Committee:

Study of Population and Immigration Problems in the United States.
Study of Population and Immigration Problems of the World.

Asian Populations.

Trends in Canadian Populations.

The Demographic Position of the Caribbean.

The Growth of Population in Central and South America.

Immigration to the United States, as Presented by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

The Population of Western Europe.

Nonimmigrant Visa Issuance and Registered Demand for Quota Immigrant

Visas.

Refugees and International Migration.

Admission of Aliens into the United States for Temporary Employment.
Commuter Workers.

Study of Population and Immigration Problems.

Inquiry Into the Alien Medical Examination Program of the U.S. Public Health Service.

Inquiry Into the Entries of Aliens Under Administration Discretionary (Parole) Authority.

Inquiry Into the Selection, Security Screenings, Admission, Emergency Care, and Resettlement of Cuban Refugees in the United States.

Inquiry Into the Enlistment of Nationals of the Republic of the Philippines in the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Coast Guard.

Judicial Decisions Construing Certain Provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

That is a pretty comprehensive study, and it has never been used and it has never been availed of. Mr. Feighan's immediate predecessor, Mr. Walter, Mr. Feighan's word to the contrary, never did see any use for or need of this subcommittee during all of the period Francis Walter was chairman of the subcommittee. He never applied for any appropriations. He saw no need for it. He did the work on his own subcommittee, as he should have, and I worked in earnest collaboration with him. Indeed, it was he who started this study in depth just referred to.

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