IMPOUNDMENT REPORTING AND REVIEW HEARINGS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON RULES NINETY-THIRD CONGRESS FIRST SESSION ON H.R. 5193 and Related Bills (With Appendix, H.R. 8480, as amended, with report) TO REQUIRE THE PRESIDENT TO NOTIFY CONGRESS QUIRE HIM TO CEASE SUCH IMPOUNDING MARCH 28, 29; APRIL 4, 5; MAY 7, 8, 14, AND 21, 1973 COMMITTEE ON RULES RAY J. MADDEN, Indiana, Chairman JAMES J. DELANEY, New York DAVE MARTIN, Nebraska RICHARD BOLLING, Missouri JOHN B. ANDERSOX, Illinois B. F. SISK, California JAMES H. (JIMMY) QUILLEX, Tennessee JOHN YOUNG, Texas DELBERT L. LATTA, Ohio DEL CLAWSON, California L. C. BATTLE, Counsel and Staff Director WILLIAN D. CROSBY, Jr., Minority Counsel (II) CONTENTS Page Appendix, H.R. 8480, as amended, with report.. 505 GOVERNMENT WITNESSES Office of Management and Budget: Stan Ebner, General Counsel --- Anderson, Hon. John B., a Representative in Congress from the State of Illinois.----- Cederberg, Hon. Elford A., a Representative in Congress from the State Conte, Hon. Silvio 0., a Representative in Congress from the State of Culver, Hon. John C., a Representative in Congress from the State of Iowa. Danielson, Hon. George E., a Representative in Congress from the State Eckhardt, Hon. Bob, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ervin, Hon. Sam J. Jr., a l'.S. Senator from the State of North Carolina.. Esch, Hon. Marvin L., a Representative in Congress from the State of Evans, Hon. Frank E., a Representative in Congress from the State of Giaimo, Hon. Robert N., a Representative in Congress from the State Holtzman, Hon. Elizabeth, a Representative in Congress from the State Jones, Hon. James R., a Representative in Congress from the State of Leggett. Hon. Robert L., a Representative in Congress from the State Mahon, Hon. George, a Representative in Congress from the State of Moakley, Hon. Joe, a Representative in Congress from the State of O'Hara, Hon. James G., a Representative in Congress from the State of Penper, Hon. Claude, a Representative in Congress from the State of Florida - -- Arizona Sarbanes. Hon. Paul s., a Representative in Congress from the State of Vanik. Hon. Charles A., a Representative in Congress from the State of Whitten. Hon. Jamie L., a Representative in Congress from the State of - Burt, Robert A., professor of law, University of Michigan.. Cooper, Poseph, professor of political science, Rice University------- Maass, Arthur, Frank B. Thompson professor of government, Harvard GOVERNMENT WITNESSES --- York, statement.----- kansas, statement.-- Brotzman, Hon. Donald G., a Representative in Congress from the State Evans, Hon. Frank E., a Representative in Congress from the State of Colo- rado, letter to Chairman Madden ---- Michigan, statement.------- Harrington, Hon. Michael J., a Representative in Congress from the State of Massachusetts, statement.------ Hungate, Hon. William L., a Representative in Congress from the State of IMPOUNDMENT REPORTING AND REVIEW WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28, 1973 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON RULES, Washington, D.C. The committee met at 10:30 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2154, Rayburn Office Building, Hon. Ray J. Madden (chairman of the comnittee, presiding. The committe The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order. I might say that the reason why the Rules Committee is holding hearings in this room, the Government Operations Committee room, instead of our regular room over in the Capitol is because of the interest not only locally but over the Nation in the impounding legislation now pending in Congress. In these hearings we will proceed with the chairman of the Appropriations Committee, who is one of, I think, 34 Members who have filed bills on this subject. He will be followed by other witnesses today, including Mr. Cederberg, the ranking minority member of the Appropriations Committee. Tomorrow, on account of Chairman Holifield using this committee room, we will proceed with the hearings down the hall in the Foreign Affairs Committee room. I wish to thank the Foreign Affairs Committee and also Chairman Holifield for allowing us to use their rooms. The hearings tomorrow will be in room 2172, on this floor. I might state that today we start hearings on one of the most serious constitutional challenges ever to confront Congress. The legislative impoundment crisis brought on by the Nixon administration demands firm and prompt exposure not only to the Members of Congress but to the Nation. Members of Congress and the Senate have been deluged with mail and telephone calls in protest from their constituents against President Nixon's impounding of numerous domestic programs passed by the Congress in recent years, and this legislation is for the benefit of millions of American citizens, mostly in the middle lower income brackets of the Nation. These impoundments include legislation pertaining to our elder citizens, unemployed, handicapped, veterans, and those needing Government assistance. The American public should know that since President Nixon was inaugurated over 4 years ago approximately $11.1 billion of funds have been impounded which cover legislation on housing, education, health, transportation, antipollution, hospital construction, veterans hospitals, small business loans, watershed and flood prevention, help |