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SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTY-SECOND CONGRESS

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

CLARENCE CANNON, Missouri, Chairman JOHN H. KERR, North Carolina

JOHN TABER, New York GEORGE H. MAHON, Texas

RICHARD B. WIGGLESWORTH, Massachuset HARRY R. SHEPPARD, California

KARL STEFAN, Nebraska ALBERT THOMAS, Texas

BEN F. JENSEN, Iowa MICHAEL J. KIRWAN, Ohio

H. CARL ANDERSEN, Minnesota W. F. NORRELL, Arkansas

WALT HORAN, Washington ALBERT GORE, Tennessee

GORDON CANFIELD, New Jersey JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi

IVOR D. FENTON, Pennsylvania GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Alabama

LOWELL STOCKMAN, Oregon JOHN J. ROONEY, New York

JOHN PHILLIPS, California J. VAUGHAN GARY, Virginia

ERRETT P. SCRIVNER, Kansas JOE B. BATES, Kentucky

FREDERIC R. COUDERT, JR., New York JOHN E. FOGARTY, Rhode Island

CLIFF CLEVENGER, Ohio HENRY M. JACKSON, Washington

EARL WILSON, Indiana ROBERT L. F. SIKES, Florida

NORRIS COTTON, New Hampshire ANTONIO M. FERNANDEZ, New Mexico GLENN R. DAVIS, Wisconsin WILLIAM G. STIGLER, Oklahoma

BENJAMIN F. JAMES, Pennsylvania E. H. HEDRICK, West Virginia

GERALD R. FORD, JR., Michigan PRINCE H. PRESTON, JR., Georgia

FRED E. BUSBEY, Illinois
OTTO E. PASSMAN, Louisiana

GEORGE B. SCHWABE, Oklahoma
LOUIS C. RABAUT, Michigan
DANIEL J. FLOOD, Pennsylvania
CHRISTOPHER C. MCGRATH, New York
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
FOSTER FURCOLO, Massachusetts
FRED MARSHALL, Minnesota
WINFIELD K. DENTON, Indiana
JOHN J. RILEY, South Carolina
ALFRED D. SIEMINSKI, New Jersey

GEORGE Y. HARVEY, Clerk

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SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION BILL FOR 1952

SUBCOMMITTEE ON INDEPENDENT OFFICES APPROPRIATIONS

ALBERT THOMAS, Texas, Chairman ALBERT GORE, Tennessee

JOHN PHILLIPS, California GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Alabama FREDERIC R. COUDERT, Jr., New SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

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NORRIS COTTON, New Hampshire

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 1951. ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION

WITNESSES GORDON DEAN, CHAIRMAN DR. HENRY D. SMYTH, COMMISSIONER THOMAS E. MURRAY, COMMISSIONER M. W. BOYER, GENERAL MANAGER WALTER J. WILLIAMS, DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGEP MAJ. GEN. THOMAS F. FARRELL, ASSISTAN: TENERE ; VANAGER EVERETT L. HOLLIS, GENERAL CO2:3 SEL RICHARD W. COOK, DIRECTOR, DI DION OF PRODUCTION FRANK J. ARROTTA, DIVISION OF PRODUCTION CURTIS A. NELSON, MANAGER, SAVANNAH RIVER OPERATIONS

OFFICE WILLIAM H. SLATON, SAVANNAH RIVER OPERATIONS OFFICE J. DONALD MCBRIDE, SAVANNAH RIVER OPERATIONS OFFICE CAPT. ANDREW McB. JACKSON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF

MILITARY APPLICATION RODNEY L. SOUTHWICK, DIVISION OF INFORMATION SERVICES OSCAR S. SMITH, DIVISION OF ORGANIZATION AND PERSONNEL LINDSLEY H. NOBLE, CONTROLLER F. J. MCCARTHY, JR., DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR BUDGETS Mr. GORE. The committee will come to order.

The committee is pleased to have before it Mr. Gordon Dean, Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission; Commissioners Henry D. Smyth and Thomas E. Murray; also Mr. M. W. Boyer, General Manager; Walter J. Williams, Deputy General Manager; Maj Gen.

Thomas F. Farrell, Assistant General Manager; Everett L. Hollis, General Counsel; Richard W. Cook, Director, Division of Production; Frank J. Arrotta, Division of Production; Curtis A. Nelson, Manager, Savannah River Operations Office; William Slaton, Savannah River Operations Office; J. Donald McBride, Savannah River Operations Office; Capt. Andrew McB. Jackson, Deputy Director, Division of Military Application; Rodney L. Southwick, Division of Information Services; Oscar S. Smith, Division of Organization and Personnel;

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MITATION

Lindsley H. Noble, Controller; and F. J. McCarthy, Jr., Deputy Director for Budgets.

You are appearing in connection with a supplemental estimate for $484,240,000, which is contained in House Document No. 238.

Mr. Dean, did you arrive this morning by way of atomic air force, or submarine?

Mr. DEAN. We did not come up in any fantastic new weapon of the future.

urse of the y, So man matters,o put the

RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN ATOMIC ENERGY Mr. GORE. Well, this committee is charged with the very menial task, unglamorous task, of deciding how many of the taxpayers' dollars shall be spent upon this program. We have been reading a very great deal of information recently which is not quite commensurate with the information which this committee has heretofore received. Would you like to put the committee in focus on such related and unrelated matters?

Mr. DEAN. So many things have appeared in the papers in the course of the last 2 or 3 weeks that I think we would have to take them piece by piece.

Mr. GORE. We will be glad to have that.

Mr. DEAN. A good many of these stories you have read-for example, the fact that the Army has a guided missile of great interest to them, and pictures of that appeared in the paper-that is an Army release, of course—and the Air Force have a similar one which came out about 2 days later, and about 3 days later, I think it was, the Navy release came along which said they had one in the making or on the drawing board which was better than both the Army and Air Force missiles-of course, none of those stories came out of our Commission. They have had to do with the development of guided missiles and rockets by the three services.

Mr. GORE. It would indicate that, instead of unification, we still have a lot of interservice competition for publicity as well as appropriation of funds. I do not expect you to comment on that.

Mr. DEAN. I will say for the guided missile program, that it has had considerable coordination during the course of the last year under the guidance of K. T. Keller, who was brought in by the Secretary of Defense to assign priorities to the various rockets that are on the drawing boards, of which there are many, and guided missiles. I think that is in better shape than it was, certainly, a year ago. In other words, certain of them look promising, and they are concentrating on those. Others have been wiped out. So I think they have made some real progress in that field.

HYDROGEN BOMB DEVELOPMENT

Mr. GORE. How near are you to making a hydrogen bomb? Dr. DEAN. I guess this had better be off the record. Mr. GORE. It is quite all right for it to be off the record, but all of this mystic gazing into the crystal ball leaves the public under an

off the progen bomb

Mr. DEAN. It certainly does. And we are not comfortable about that, either. One of the difficulties is that every time you correct what

Micous impresng into the right for it

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