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ECOND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1952

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTY-SECOND CONGRESS

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

CLARENCE CANNON, Missouri, Chairman

JOHN H. KERR, North Carolina
GEORGE H. MAHON, Texas
HARRY R. SHEPPARD, California
ALBERT THOMAS, Texas
MICHAEL J. KIRWAN, Ohio
W. F. NORRELL, Arkansas
ALBERT GORE, Tennessee
JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi
GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Alabama
JOHN J. ROONEY, New York
J. VAUGHAN GARY, Virginia
JOE B. BATES, Kentucky
JOHN E. FOGARTY, Rhode Island
HENRY M. JACKSON, Washington
ROBERT L. F. SIKES, Florida

ANTONIO M. FERNANDEZ, New Mexico
WILLIAM G. STIGLER, Oklahoma

E. H. HEDRICK, West Virginia

PRINCE H. PRESTON, JR., Georgia

OTTO E. PASSMAN, Louisiana

LOUIS C. RABAUT, Michigan

DANIEL J. FLOOD, Pennsylvania

CHRISTOPHER C. MCGRATH, New York

SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

FOSTER FURCOLO, Massachusetts

FRED MARSHALL, Minnesota
WINFIELD K. DENTON, Indiana
JOHN J. RILEY, South Carolina

ALFRED D. SIEMINSKI, New Jersey

JOHN TABER, New York

RICHARD B. WIGGLESWORTH, Massachuset KARL STEFAN, Nebraska

BEN F. JENSEN, Iowa

H. CARL ANDERSEN, Minnesota
WALT HORAN, Washington
GORDON CANFIELD, New Jersey
IVOR D. FENTON, Pennsylvania
LOWELL STOCKMAN, Oregon
JOHN PHILLIPS, California

ERRETT P. SCRIVNER, Kansas

FREDERIC R. COUDERT, JR., New York

CLIFF CLEVENGER, Ohio

EARL WILSON, Indiana

NORRIS COTTON, New Hampshire

GLENN R. DAVIS, Wisconsin

BENJAMIN F. JAMES, Pennsylvania
GERALD R. FORD, JR., Michigan
FRED E. BUSBEY, Illinois

GEORGE B. SCHWABE, Oklahoma

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SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION BILL FOR 1952

SUBCOMMITTEE ON INDEPENDENT OFFICES APPROPRIATIONS ALBERT THOMAS, Texas, Chairman

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GORDON DEAN, CHAIRMAN

DR. HENRY D. SMYTH, COMMISSIONER

THOMAS E. MURRAY, COMMISSIONER

M. W. BOYER, GENERAL MANAGER

WALTER J. WILLIAMS, DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER

MAJ. GEN. THOMAS F. FARRELL, ASSISTAN
EVERETT L. HOLLIS, GENERAL COUNSEL

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RICHARD W. COOK, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF PRODUCTION
FRANK J. ARROTTA, DIVISION OF PRODUCTION

CURTIS A. NELSON, MANAGER, SAVANNAH RIVER OPERATIONS
OFFICE

WILLIAM H. SLATON, SAVANNAH RIVER OPERATIONS OFFICE
J. DONALD MCBRIDE, SAVANNAH RIVER OPERATIONS OFFICE
CAPT. ANDREW MCB. JACKSON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF
MILITARY APPLICATION

RODNEY L. SOUTHWICK, DIVISION OF INFORMATION SERVICES
OSCAR S. SMITH, DIVISION OF ORGANIZATION AND PERSONNEL
LINDSLEY H. NOBLE, CONTROLLER

F. J. MCCARTHY, JR., DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR BUDGETS

Mr. GORE. The committee will come to order.

The committee is pleased to have before it Mr. Gordon Dean, Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission; Commissioners Henry D. Smyth and Thomas E. Murray; also Mr. M. W. Boyer, General Manager; Walter J. Williams, Deputy General Manager; Maj Gen. Thomas F. Farrell, Assistant General Manager; Everett L. Hollis, General Counsel; Richard W. Cook, Director, Division of Production; Frank J. Arrotta, Division of Production; Curtis A. Nelson, Manager, Savannah River Operations Office; William Slaton, Savannah River Operations Office; J. Donald McBride, Savannah River OperationsOffice; Capt. Andrew McB. Jackson, Deputy Director, Division of Military Application; Rodney L. Southwick, Division of Information. Services; Oscar S. Smith, Division of Organization and Personnel;

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Lindsley H. Noble, Controller; and F. J. McCarthy, Jr., Deputy Director for Budgets.

You are appearing in connection with a supplemental estimate for $484,240,000, which is contained in House Document No. 238.

Mr. Dean, did you arrive this morning by way of atomic air force, or submarine?

Mr. DEAN. We did not come up in any fantastic new weapon of the future.

RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN ATOMIC ENERGY

Mr. GORE. Well, this committee is charged with the very menial task, unglamorous task, of deciding how many of the taxpayers' dollars shall be spent upon this program. We have been reading a very great deal of information recently which is not quite commensurate with the information which this committee has heretofore received. Would you like to put the committee in focus on such related and unrelated matters?

Mr. DEAN. So many things have appeared in the papers in the course of the last 2 or 3 weeks that I think we would have to take them piece by piece.

Mr. GORE. We will be glad to have that.

Mr. DEAN. A good many of these stories you have read-for example, the fact that the Army has a guided missile of great interest to them, and pictures of that appeared in the paper-that is an Army release, of course- and the Air Force have a similar one which came out about 2 days later, and about 3 days later, I think it was, the Navy release came along which said they had one in the making or on the drawing board which was better than both the Army and Air Force missiles of course, none of those stories came out of our Commission. They have had to do with the development of guided missiles and rockets by the three services.

Mr. GORE. It would indicate that, instead of unification, we still have a lot of interservice competition for publicity as well as appropriation of funds. I do not expect you to comment on that.

Mr. DEAN. I will say for the guided missile program, that it has had considerable coordination during the course of the last year under the guidance of K. T. Keller, who was brought in by the Secretary of Defense to assign priorities to the various rockets that are on the drawing boards, of which there are many, and guided missiles. I think that is in better shape than it was, certainly, a year ago. In other words, certain of them look promising, and they are concentrat ing on those. Others have been wiped out. So I think they have made some real progress in that field.

HYDROGEN BOMB DEVELOPMENT

Mr. GORE. How near are you to making a hydrogen bomb?
Dr. DEAN. I guess this had better be off the record.

Mr. GORE. It is quite all right for it to be off the record, but all of this mystic gazing into the crystal ball leaves the public under an erroneous impression.

Mr. DEAN. It certainly does. And we are not comfortable about that, either. One of the difficulties is that every time you correct what

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