Mr. COLLINS. What about this public service and whether people have this situation? I was listening to television last week and the fellow got up and talked for a long time, inviting complaints and said, "We are renewing our license and would like for everybody that knows something to complain about it to us, to be sure to write and tell it." If any of my colleagues would go on television and ask for complaints, we would get them all the time. What do we achieve by this as a public service function? Mr. BARTLEY. Actually, it is to let the public know they do have a right to let the stations know what they are thinking and they can also let the Commission know. Many of those announcements I have heard also solicit favorable comment. Strangely enough, mighty strange to some people, and this did not surprise me, but in the responses we get as a result of those, we get almost as many or more in many cases complimentary remarks about the station than complaints. Mr. COLLINS. That is interesting. Mr. RAY. Yes. Mr. COLLINS. That is all, Mr. Chairman. Mr. TIERNAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Sir, isn't the Commission greatly concerned with the programing in prime time? Mr. RAY. Sorry, I didn't catch it. Mr. TIERNAN. Hasn't the Commission promulgated rules with regard to prime time programing? Mr. BARTLEY. What we have proposed in rulemaking is—or in the rules is that only a certain amount of that may be originated by the networks. Mr. TIERNAN. Well, have you supervised this advertising campaign that is being put on for the Army? Mr. BARTLEY. We don't supervise any programs of any kind of any nature. Mr. TIERNAN. Do you monitor it? Mr. BARTLEY. Not programing as such. Mr. TIERNAN. How can you be concerned in promulgating a rule with regard to prime time if you don't have supervision or control? Mr. BARTLEY. That is largely an economic matter. Mr. TIERNAN. Well, you are just concerned about economics of it and not concerned about what goes on prime time? Mr. BARTLEY. The economics seem to be centralizing the program sources in fewer hands and with additional outlets it is our hope that additional program sources will develop. Mr. TIERNAN. Well, sir, I assume you have had an opportunity to read the current resolution introduced by Mr. Van Deerlin? Mr. BARTLEY. Yes. Mr. TIERNAN. And you know it has to do with regard to the program of expenditures of sums for 4 months of radio and television recruiting campaigns? And did any of the staff of FCC inquire of the military what the schedule of timing of those ads and commercials were? Mr. BARTLEY. No, sir. Mr. TIERNAN. They made no inquiry? Mr. BARTLEY. That is correct. Mr. TIERNAN. You don't think that the Commission should have or the staff should have looked into when these ads and commercials were going to be put on television and radio? Mr. BARTLEY. Personally I don't think so. Mr. TIERNAN. You are speaking for yourself and the Commission has not taken a position on it? Mr. BARTLEY. No, I believe they have not had the specific question put to them. Mr. TIERNAN. Yet you, as a member of the Commission, and the Commission as a body have encouraged broadcasters and people in the media to sponsor public service ads, haven't you? Mr. BARTLEY. Yes, sir. Mr. TIERNAN. Yet, and generally on renewals-that is one of the factors the Commission considers in renewal of licenses, isn't it? Mr. BARTLEY. What we consider, I believe, and I can stand corrected by Mr. Ray here also, who goes over the program forms, but what we consider is the performance versus the promises. The only time-well when they file an application, they propose to carry a certain amount of public service announcements and that I would say is about the end of the ballgame. They lived up to that performance and then I say they are in clear. Mr. TIERNAN. I see. Have you seen any of these commercials, recruiting commercials, for the service? Mr. BARTLEY. No, sir. Mr. TIERNAN. You have not seen them on television? Mr. BARTLEY. No, I have not. Mr. TIERNAN. Do you watch television? Mr. BARTLEY. Some.. Mr. TIERNAN. Some? Mr. BARTLEY. I listen to radio more than I watch television. Mr. TIERNAN. Do you think the staff might be able to obtain one of these commercials for you and the Commission to view? Mr. BARTLEY. I think it would be easier to get it from the Department of Defense. Mr. TIERNAN. Right; they are going to be shown here. Well, has there been any request by the military with regard to the time? Mr. BARTLEY. No, sir. Mr. TIERNAN. Free time? Mr. BARTLEY. No, sir. Mr. TIERNAN. Thank you. No further questions. Mr. MACDONALD. Mr. Frev. Mr. FREY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You point out for the recordkeeping you do on this for the unpaid and in the new section and can you give us any idea of how much total dollars of public funds have been paid, say, during the last year for this type of advertising? Mr. BARTLEY. No, sir, we wouldn't have it. Mr. FREY. I thought-well, you wouldn't have it at all, you don't know how much as been paid out of public funds? Mr. BARTLEY. We wouldn't have any idea. Mr. FREY. Section 317 only goes into the announcement-who has paid for it? Mr. BARTLEY. Identification of sponsor; that is all. Mr. FREY. Do you have any guess at all to the amount of paid versus public service Mr. BARTLEY. No. The only one I know of that is current is the Department of the Army. I don't know what is going on in the State and local governments. Mr. FREY. I am speaking specifically, I guess, on the two on the Federal level. Do you think it would be important for the Commission to have any records of this kind? Mr. BARTLEY. I think it might be important for the committee in considering the bill, but I don't know what we would do with it. Mr. FREY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. MACDONALD. Thank you very much, Mr. Bartley. Mr. BARTLEY. Thank you. Mr. MACDONALD. The next witness is Mr. Paul Wollstadt, Assistant Secretary for Manpower, Research, and Utilization, Defense Department. STATEMENT OF PAUL WOLLSTADT, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY (MANPOWER, RESEARCH AND UTILIZATION), DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE; ACCOMPANIED BY MAJ. GEN. JOHN B. KIDD, DIRECTOR OF PERSONNEL PLANNING, DCS/PERSONNEL, HEADQUARTERS, USAF; JOHN G. KESTER, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY (MANPOWER AND RESERVE AFFAIRS), DEPARTMENT OF ARMY; BRIG. GEN. HERBERT E. BECKINGTON, USMC, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PERSONNEL, HEADQUARTERS, USMC; REAR ADM. W. M. A. GREENE, COMMANDER, NAVY RECRUITING COMMAND; AND GUS LEE, DIRECTOR OF PROCUREMENT, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY, DOD Mr. WOLLSTADT. It has been suggested, Mr. Chairman, that I should introduce those from the services who are here with me and may be called upon to help answer questions. Mr. MACDONALD. Do you intend to call them to answer questions or are they just did they just give you a ride up here? Mr. WOLLSTADT. To answer any questions I can't handle. ་ Mr. MACDONALD. Why don't you call to the table whoever will assist you. Mr. WOLLSTADT. This is Mr. John Kester, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Army in Manpower and Reserve Affairs; and Rear Adm. William Greene, who is head of recruiting for the Navy; and Brig. Gen. Herbert Beckington from the Marine Corps; and Maj. Gen. John B. Kidd of the Air Force. Mr. MACDONALD. Welcome, gentlemen. You may proceed. Mr. WOLLSTADT. Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to appear here today as the Department of Defense representative at your hearings on House Concurrent Resolution 215. The Department of Defense was asked to provide a witness because of the 3-month experimental program being conducted by the Army on the use of paid radio and TV time to attract volunteers for military service. I believe it would be appropriate first to provide some background on the effort to achieve an all-volunteer armed force. It was this effort toward increased volunteerism which led to the decision to conduct the paid radio and TV experiment. Shortly after taking office, President Nixon established a Presidential commission on an all-volunteer armed force. At the same time, he directed the Secretary of Defense to assign a high priority to the study of means for reducing reliance on the draft and eventually ending it. A project volunteer committee was appointed by Secretary Laird in April of 1969. The Chairman is Roger T. Kelley, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve Affairs. The Committee, which continues to function, is composed of military and civilian representatives of the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Military Services. The President's Commission on an All-Volunteer Force made its report in February 1970. The Commission members concluded unanimously that the interests of the Nation would be better served by an all-volunteer force than by a mixed force of volunteers and draftees, and recommended that steps be taken in that direction. The administration agreed with the basic conclusion of the Commission's report and on April 23, 1970, the President declared that: "From now on, the objective of this administration is to reduce draft calls to zero subject to the overriding considerations of national security." On October 12, 1970, after reviewing reports of the Project Volunteer Committee, Secretary Laird sent a memorandum to the Secretaries of the Military Departments and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This memorandum established the goal of zero draft calls by the end of fiscal year 1973. I should like to quote for you a portion of the Secretary's letter: This time table for reaching zero draft calls assumes that Congress will recognize the need to extend the Selective Service induction authority for at least two years beyond its expiration date of July 1, 1971, and that there will be favorable action during the interim period on the longer range recommendations of the Project Volunteer Report. Such action is required if we are to sustain zero draft calls for an indefinite period and thus be assured of ending reliance on the draft. It also assume that, as we move away from reliance on the draft, provision must be made to establish a standby draft system that can be used in case of emergency. Secretary Kelley has presented the administration's plan to end reliance on the draft to the Senate and House Armed Services Committees and to the Defense Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee. In making these presentations, Secretary Kelley has urged that our recommendations should be accepted, or rejected on the basis of whether they meet the test of national security and what's right for military people-not according to how one feels about the all-volunteer force concept. He has said: If an All-Volunteer Force results from taking a series of actions that are right for military people and serve the best interests of our national security, then there should be an All-Volunteer Force. But if taking the right actions does not produce an All-Volunteer Force, then there will not be one. We should not recommend, nor would Congress approve, the wrong means even if the end is good. We ask, therefore, that our legislative and other recommendations be judged on their own merits, and in terms of how they will serve our Nation's security and military people. The program which has been presented to the committees of the Congress proposes a Project Volunteer budget of $1.52 billion for fiscal year 1972. More than a billion dollars of this budget is in the compensation area. The remainder Provides for improving Army and Marine Corps barracks. We would partition 50-man open bays into two- and three-man rooms and provide a modest amount of furniture. Increases the number of scholarships for ROTC and increases subsistence for ROTC and other college level programs. Increases the number of medical scholarships. Makes available funds to enable military commanders to launch appropriate programs to improve the conditions of service life. And, finally, greatly increases the recruiting effort. Our special Project Volunteer allocation for recruiting in fiscal year 1972 is $110 million. This will be used to open recruiting stations in locations where none exist; to add nearly 6,000 people to the recruiting force; to provide proficiency pay for recruiters; to increase training; to refurbish recruiting offices; and increase advertising in support of recruiting requirements. Of the $110 million to be added to the recruiting budgets for fiscal year 1972, a total of $40 million is allocated for additional recruiting advertising. Some $10 million of this advertising would be for paid radio and TV advertising in fiscal year 1972, subject to evaluation of the test now being conducted. A keystone of the Department of Defense program to end the draft must be an improvement in the effectiveness of armed services. recruiting. Too many people measure the importance of the draft to the armed services in terms of the number of young men who are drafted. The fact is that, in addition to those actually drafted, about one-half of all who enlist do so because they expect to be drafted. This means that if we are to have an all-volunteer force we must replace the total accession power of the draft-those who are actually drafted and those who enlist because they believe they otherwise would be drafted. Everyone must realize that in order to replace the total accession power of the draft we must greatly increase the effectiveness of recruiting. It is particularly important that we do a better job of reaching the young men in the high schools so that those not planning to attend college will not automatically rule out the armed services as an occupational choice. 62-004-71-3 |