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Mr. DAVIS. I think there is no reason why we could not with this proviso, or comment-it has been my observation, Mr. Chairman, that the divided responsibility here has caused problems which, although not perhaps insuperable, are, nevertheless, quite real.

The basic difficulty is this: Where you divide the responsibility for processing loans-let's use that word in its broadest sense-and the decisionmaking responsibility, there is always the feeling on the part of the decisionmakers that the people who are processing the loan do not understand the aims of the program, are not sympathetic to the program, or are too slow, and I need not spell out the other similar difficulties.

You do have a very real difficulty where the responsibility for the program is in a sense divided among

Mr. ROONEY. Have you made a recommendation in this regard in writing in the past year and a half, your second tour of duty with the Small Business Administration?

Mr. DAVIS. No; I have not.

Mr. ROONEY. In your previous tour of duty with them?

Mr. DAVIS. I would have to check and see what I could come up with on that.

I do remember just before I left the agency in 1961 I was involved in some discussions about how this activity should be shared. My recollection is that this did not involve any question of whether it should be done. I think when I came into the picture as a lawyer, the decision had been made that this was the way it was to operate and I participated in setting it up. I would have to try and go back to the record.

REGIONAL OFFICES OF SBA

Mr. ROONEY. How many regional offices does the Small Business Administration have, and where are they located?

Mr. DAVIS. Sixty-two regional offices and ten branch offices, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. ROONEY. Will you please insert a list of them at this point in the record?

Mr. DAVIS. Yes.

(The list referred to follows:)

SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION LISTING OF FIELD OFFICE ADDRESSES

NORTHEASTERN AREA

Boston, Mass.: Sheraton Building, 470 Atlantic Avenue.

Augusta, Maine: 114 Western Avenue.

Concord, N.H.: 18 School Street.

Hartford, Conn.: Federal Office Building, 450 Main Street.

Montpelier, Vt.: Federal Building, Post Office and Courthouse, second floor, State Street.

Providence, R.I.: 611 Smith Building, 57 Eddy Street.

New York, N.Y.: 42 Broadway.

NEW YORK AREA

Santurce, P.R.: San Alberto Condominio Building, 1200 Ponce de Leon Avenue, Post Office Box 9442.

St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands: 1 Post Office Box 806.

Syracuse, N.Y.: Chimes Building, 500 South Salina Street.

Buffalo, N.Y.: ' Federal Building, 121 Ellicott Street, room 9.

1 Branch office.

MIDDLE ATLANTIC AREA

hiladelphia, Pa.: Jefferson Building, 1015 Chestnut Street.

altimore, Md.: 521 Calvert Building, Fayette and St. Paul Streets.

arksburg, W. Va.: Old Post Office Building, 227 West Pike Street.

harleston, W. Va.: 3000 U.S. Courthouse and Federal Building, 500 Quarrier Street, room 3000.

leveland, Ohio: Standard Buidling, 1370 Ontario Street.

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oledo, Ohio: 1 Federal Office Building, 234 Summit Street. olumbus, Ohio: Beacon Building, 50 West Gay Street. incinnati, Ohio: 1 4515 Federal Building.

ewark, N.J.: 10 Commerce Court.

'ittsburgh, Pa.: Federal Building, 1000 Liberty Avenue. :ichmond, Va.: Post Office Box 8565, 1904 Byrd Avenue. Vashington, D.C.: 1325 K Street NW., first floor.

SOUTHEASTERN AREA

Atlanta, Ga.: 52 Fairlie Street NW.

Birmingham, Ala: New First Federal Savings & Loan Building, 2030 First Avenue North.

Charlotte, N.C.: American Building, 201 South Tryon Street.

Columbia, S.C.: 1801 Assembly Street.

Jackson, Miss.: 322 U.S. Post Office and Courthouse Building, Capital and West Streets.

Jacksonville, Fla.: 47 West Forsyth.

Louisville, Ky: 1900 Commonwealth Building, Fourth and Broadway.
Miami, Fla.: 912 Federal Office Building, 51 Southwest First Avenue.
Nashville, Tenn.: Security Federal Savings & Loan Building, 500 Union Street.
Knoxville, Tenn.1: 233 West Cumberland Building, 301 West Cumberland Avenue.

MIDWESTERN AREA

Chicago, Ill.: Federal Office Building, 219 South Dearborn Street, Room 437. Des Moines, Iowa: 850 Insurance Exchange Building, Fifth and Grant Avenue. Detroit, Mich. : 1200 Book Building, 1249 Washington Boulevard.

Marquette, Mich.1: 502 West Kaye Avenue.

Indianapolis, Ind.: Century Building, 36 South Pennsylvania Street.

Kansas City, Mo.: 911 Walnut Street.

Madison, Wis.: Commercial State Bank Building, 114 North Carroll Street.
Milwaukee, Wis.1: Straus Building, 238 West Wisconsin Avenue.

Minneapolis, Minn.: Lewis Building, 603 Second Avenue South.

St. Louis, Mo.: 2469 Federal Building, 1520 Market Street.

SOUTHWESTERN AREA

Dallas, Tex.: United Fidelity Life Building, 1025 Elm Street.

Albuquerque, N. Mex.: 102, U.S. Courthouse, Fifth and Gold Streets NW.

Houston, Tex.: 802 Federal Office Building, 201 Fannin Street.

Little Rock, Ark.: 377 Post Office and Courthouse Building, 600 West Capital Avenue.

Lubbock, Tex.: 204 Federal Office Building, 1616 19th Street.

Marshall, Tex.: Marshall National Bank, 101 East Austin Street.

New Orleans, La.: 845 Federal Office Building, (south), 610 South Street.

Oklahoma City, Okla.: 807 U.S. Post Office Building, Third and Robinson.
San Antonio, Tex.: 412 Kallison Building, 434 South Main Avenue.

ROCKY MOUNTAIN AREA

Denver, Colo.: Federal Office Building, 1961 Stout Street.

Casper, Wyo. : Western Building, 300 North Center.

Fargo, N. Dak.: 300 American Life Building, 207 North Fifth Street.

Helena, Mont.: Post Office Box 1690, 205 Power Block, Corner Main and Sixth Avenue.

1 Branch office.

Omaha, Nebr.: 7425 Federal Building, 125 South State Street.

Salt Lake City, Utah: 2237 Federal Building, 125 South State Street.

Sioux Falls, S. Dak.: 402 National Bank of South Dakota Building, Eighth an Main Avenue.

Wichita, Kans., 301 Board of Trade Building, 120 South Market Street.

PACIFIC COASTAL AREA

San Francisco, Calif.: Federal Building, 450 Golden Gate Avenue, Box 36044. Anchorage, Alaska: 304 Loussac-Sogn Building, Fifth and D Streets, P Office Box 999.

Boise, Idaho: room 408, Idaho Building, 216 North Eighth Street.

Honolulu, Hawaii: 1149 Bethel Street, room 402.

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Agana, Guam: Ada Plaza Center Building, Post Office Box 927.
Las Vegas, Nev.:1 1721 East Charleston Street.

Los Angeles, Calif.: 312 West Fifth Street.

Phoenix, Ariz.: Central Towers Building, 2727 North Central Avenue.
Portland, Oreg.: 330 Pittock Block, 921 Southwest Washington Street.
San Diego, Calif.: 110 West C Street.

Seattle, Wash.: 1206 Smith Tower, 506 Second Avenue.

Spokane, Wash.: American Legion Building, room 300, North 108 Washington Street.

Mr. ROONEY. If there are no further questions, thank you, gentle

men.

Mr. DAVIS. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

1 Branch office.

DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE

HIGH-SPEED GROUND TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT

WITNESSES

ALAN S. BOYD, UNDER SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORTATION ROBERT A. NELSON, DIRECTOR, HIGH-SPEED GROUND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM OFFICE

LAWRENCE E. IMHOFF, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF BUDGET AND FINANCE

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Mr. ROONEY. The final item today is also contained in House Document 295, and is a request for the Department of Commerce, transportation research, high speed ground transportation research and development in the amount of $20 million.

We shall here insert pages 2 through 7 and 11 through 15 of the justifications.

(The justifications follow:)

HIGH-SPEED GROUND TRANSPORTATION

JUSTIFICATION

High speed ground transportation...--

1966

estimated requirementa

$18,250,00

This request is for $20 million to fund the first year of a program which is authorized to receive funds for fiscal years 1966, 1967, and 1968. The program is designed to implement the will of the Congress as expressed in S. 1588. a bill which authorizes the Secretary of Commerce to undertake research and development in high speed ground transportation. The project plans for the 3 fiscal years (pp. 13, 14, and 15) represent the best estimates available at this time and reflect the funding levels established by the law. The fiscal year 1956 figures are based on definite plans, those for fiscal year 1967 and 1968 will be revised and refined as the program progresses. Firm management will be exercised in protecting Government interests and in effecting economies.

The objectives of the high speed ground transportation research and develop ment, demonstrations, and statistics programs would be: (1) to advance the technology of high speed ground transportation; (2) to carry on demonstrations of improved rail passenger service in the Northeast corridor in order to test patronage response; and (3) to establish a national transportation statisties program and information system to aid transportation policymaking and planning by agencies of the Federal Goverment and by State and local government agencies.

The program for the advancement of technology in high speed ground transportation recognizes that technology in this field has not been pushed forward at a rate comparable to the pace of technology in other modes of transportation such as highway and air. The need for the advancement of technology in high speed ground transportation arises from the increasing density of population in metropolitan and megalopolitan areas which is placing a rising premium on systems of transportation which economize on land use.

Rail transportation meets the requirement of moving large volumes of freight and passengers at low cost in land use. There is strong reason to believe, however, that ground transportation could be greatly improved in terms of speed and comfort without increasing cost. The Nation would benefit from the greater economies which seem in prospect if the technology of ground transportation is advanced. By meeting the need for improved high-speed ground transportation, a more balanced and more adequate national transportation system could be achieved.

It is essential to determine at what point the improvement of technology of high-speed ground transportation should be translated into specific systems. Such application should be first made in the Northeast corridor, which has a density of population exceeding that of any other region of the country. In order to obtain information about this question a demonstration of the best rail passenger service that can be provided utilizing existing technology would be carried on in the Northeast corridor. This would provide information as to the extent to which patronage would respond to more radical improvements. This test is necessary to assure that a high-speed ground transportation system which may be adopted will be needed not only at the present time but in the future, and that it will not contribute to an excessive supply of transportation facilities. The national transportation statistics program has the objective of carrying out the Secretary of Commerce's responsibility to bring together available information regarding transportation for policymaking and systems planning. The

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