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Mr. Jonas. Did you ask for more people in the regular bill?

Mr. GRIFFIN. We did not have the assignment from the Bureau of the Budget in the regular bill. This came as a result of the Presidential study for the items covered in the supplemental.

Mr. Jonas. Mr. Olsen says this bill contradicts what the President reported. I have not checked it.

Mr. Olsen of Montana.

Mr. GRIFFIN. There is nothing in the efforts of GSA which contradict because our assignments from BOB come directly from the Presidential study. The Comptroller General's study was also taken into account by the Presidential study.

Mr. DWYER. I have information from the GAO report of last Friday that I think is helpful. GAO said that it is important to develop and install an information system for these resons. The Government agencies were contracting $23 million this past year for computer time to commercial sources while Government time remained unused. Certain agencies were releasing models of equipment while other agencies were ordering the same models. Government agencies were installing computers while available computers of other agencies went unused, and Government agencies were installing the same kind of equipment being released by contractors. This is an example of the management information so necessary to make better decisions on behalf of the Government.

Mr. Jonas. You did not suddenly discover that.

Mr. Brooks said on the floor Thursday that GAO has issued a hundred reports to this same effect. Why do you suddenly have to get so excited here about two bills? We just completed one. Now you come in here with another in the face of legislation which seems to me to put the primary responsibility for the basic research that needs to be made on the Bureau of Standards. I do not think you ought to start consolidating and acting in this field until they come up with an answer and tell you what kind of system we need.

Mr. GRIFFIN. I think it should be pointed out we are procuring all the time. We are developing schedules every year. We have to develop as much information both from the manufacturers and other agencies as possible so we can get the very best arrangement from every manufacturer in the business. For a good example just this year in GSA, within the past 2 months, for our coming requirements, the GSA technicians under the direction of Mr. Turpin estimated $10 million for our equipment requirements for the next 5 years. I think the negotiations continued for several months. Our savings, Mr. Chairman, instead of $10 million we spent only about $6 million for that equipment.

Mr. Evins. If there are no questions, we will pass on to the next item.


Object classification
(In thousands of dollars)




53, 527

55, 480



Personnel summary

1964 actual

1965 estimate

1966 estimate

Average grade and salary:

Average GS grade.
Average GS salary.
Average salary of ungraded positions..

$7, 281
$5, 713

7.3 $7,530

$7,583 $5, 739

$5, 882

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Mr. Evins. We will turn to “Operating expenses, Federal Supply Service," and insert pages 16 through 21 in the record.

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“For an additional amount for 'Operating expenses, Federal Supply Service', $3,510,000."

GENERAL STATEMENT "This proposed supplemental appropriation is for additional supply support to the Department of Defense related to the current supply support buildup in southeast Asia. The level now anticipated for fiscal year 1966 is substantially above that which can be financed with presently available funds” (quoted from House document).

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The following tabulation reflects the magnitude of estimated volumes and the financing required:

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3. Quality control and standardization: (a) Inspection....

(1) Value of store and nonstores

purchases inspected (mil

Unit cost per $100..

Performance cost.
(2) Federal supply schedule sur-

veillance (millions).
Unit cost per $100.

Performance cost..
(3) Number of contracts admin-

Unit cost per contract ad-


Performance cost.
(4) Number of laboratory tests..

Unit cost per laboratory test.

Performance cost.. 6. Administrative operations:

Sales (millions).
Administrative operations unit cost per

$100 sales..
Administrative operations performance


0 0 0

6, 675


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$114 $787, 000


$20.84 $771, 000


0 +3,300

0 +$69,000


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This supplemental appropriation contains the requirements for additional expenses in the supply distribution, procurement, quality control, and administratire operations activities. All expenses are directly related to the increased volume of stores stock sales and nonstores direct delivery purchases for the Department of Defense in connection with the increased military aid to Vietnam and the general buildup of U.S. military forces.

Based on U.S. Army estimates of additional requirements for GSA-managed items contained on their support lists and buildup lists, and preliminary estimates of Navy and Air Force requirements, there will be an unanticipated increase of $26 million in stores stock sales. In addition the general administrative items furnished to DOD by GSA such as group 81-packaging and packing sup plies—not included in the lists amount to an additional $15.4 million based on Army and GSA estimates. Based on the same sources, estimates of additional requirements for nonstores items will total $10.8 million. These increases, which will raise the stores stock sales for fiscal year 1966 to $416.4 million and the total volume of stores and nonstores buying to $787.3 million, are considered the minimum effect of the increased military requirements on the volumes which can be handled within 1966 funds currently available.

The estimate of Army volume which constitutes the major portion of the increase is as firm as possible at this planning stage, based on actual requirements anticipated for initial issue and replacement factors for specified troop strengths. The Navy and Air Force requirements together are included in this estimate, based on approximately 50 percent of the Army requirements, and include the supply support to Navy needed in the demothballing of ships and the initial supply of those vessels.

GSA support to the military forces includes combat essential items as well as general administrative support items. Many items of individual and organizational equipment are supplied by GSA such as soldiers' entrenching tools and machetes, and the organizations' supply of axes, picks, and shovels.

The tool kits and sets managed by GSA, many of which consist of hundreds of individual components are basic to the military effort in Vietnam. These kits and sets are used for the installation and maintenance of radar and radio equipment, field maintenance of mobile equipment such as cranes, tractors, graders, earthmoving equipment, "pioneer kits” issued to combat engineer battalions for site preparation and clearance, kits for repairing sniperscopes, kits for the maintenance of teletype equipment, and missile assembly kits.

In addition to supplying the shortages of troops on duty, initial issue must be made to additional troop strength and the pipeline needs to be filled to maintain

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