OTHER SERVICES

Mr. BENJAMIN. Describe more particularly your request for $2.1 million for "other services."

I would appreciate a quarterly breakdown of your spending for calendar year 1978, and the first quarter of fiscal year 1979 on this

account.

Would you explain "other services" to us?

Mr. LABARRE. I can explain the other services, but you wish me to submit something for the record?

Mr. BENJAMIN. Yes, a quarterly breakdown of the expenditures for calendar year 1978 and the first quarter of fiscal year 1979. [The information follows:]

Mr. LABARRE. Other services covers a wide range of thingsrepairs to equipment, contractual building service. The GPO Engineering Service comes out and does minor repairs; computer services in our data systems, contractual ADP services, warehouse services, maintenance contracts, administrative support, tuition system studies, engineering charges and other miscellaneous charges which may come up in the operation of the two warehouses and the operation of the Library and Statutory Distribution Service.

Mr. BENJAMIN. The tuition item is $8,000.

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir. Tuition covers a broad range of things. We send a number of people to the GSA courses in warehousing taught here.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Does GSA charge you for that?

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir, they charge about $100 each time you send somebody for approximately 3 or 4 days, and sometimes a little more. Also they have some very excellent courses on mail management at the Archives. I send a number of people to that, and in addition to that, if any of my people take job-related courses at colleges, we help them with their tuition, provided they pass and complete the course.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Do all the Federal agencies do that?

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Would Members of Congress be entitled to do that?

Mr. LABARRE. I think they would.

Mr. BENJAMIN. I don't think so.

Mr. LABARRE. This is not a large item in my operation.

SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS

Mr. BENJAMIN. Also, describe in more detail your request for $510,000 for "supplies and materials." Provide information concerning your quarterly expenditures under this classification for calendar year 1978.

[The information follows:]

In Fiscal Year 1980 $510,000 has been requested for the acquisition of general office supplies, minor office equipment, forms, paper, and miscellaneous mailing supplies such as envelopes, labels, tags, containers, boxes, and jiffy bags.

Mr. LABARRE. Fiscal 1980, $510,000 for supplies and materials object class 26. We don't have the final costs for fiscal year 1978 but it looks like it is close to $535,000. The actual cost in 1977 for this object class was $1,082,000. This provides for the acquisition of routine office supplies, minor office equipment, boxes, labels, paper, Jiffy bags and forms.

Mr. BENJAMIN. What specific items of machinery and equipment will you purchase with the $74,000 requested for fiscal year 1980?

Mr. BENJAMIN. Your estimated contingency fund for fiscal year 1979 is $300,000. You request the same amount for fiscal year 1980. Detail what monies were paid out of this fund during calendar year 1978 and describe the purpose of each expenditure.

[The information follows:]

The contingency fund is expended only with the approval of the Public Printer for workload increases not anticipated in the budget and which cannot be provided for by normal budgetary adjustments. The entire amount of $300,000 was expended for publications for depository libraries.

ACQUISITIONS OF SITE AND GENERAL PLANS AND DESIGNS OF BUILDING

Mr. BENJAMIN. Turn to acquisition of site and general plans and designs of building.

You are requesting $19,396,000 for a new printing plant and in the past we have deferred consideration due to the lack of authorization.

You have indicated to us the present status of that authorization is that the Public Works Committee of the House has approved such, but you have not had Senate committee action. You say you are hopeful of getting Senate committee action.

Can you give us an anticipated date for the Senate committee action?

AUTHORIZATION FOR NEW BUILDING

Mr. BOYLE. No. I wrote a letter to the Chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee and I have not received an answer. I have been in touch with the staff people, and I don't have a definite promise of a day, but they say they are going to try and resolve the question in the early spring.

Mr. BENJAMIN. So we don't know at this point whether we will have a favored resolution or not, no matter when they consider it. Mr. BOYLE. I wouldn't take a guess.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Perhaps a better thing is not put it in the House budget, and let the Senate carry that if they are inclined to approve it.

Mr. BOYLE. Well, our Senate appropriation hearings come up on March 6. I am going to leave it in there for the Senate, and the

Senate might take the position that as long as the Senate itself hasn't acted on it, they will do▬▬

Mr. BENJAMIN. I think they have to.

Mr. BOYLE. I can see that. I know the reasoning behind it. But what would be the chances of this committee and the Senate Appropriation Committee-and I know you can't speak for the Senate Appropriation Committee-considering it or temporarily leaving it in for consideration up to the point of markup in case something does――

Mr. BENJAMIN. Our problem, I assume, is that we would be subject to a point of order, and it is very conceivable we can take a bill through without getting a rule if we can avoid

Mr. BOYLE. I can see that. But let's say that we do get Senate action before the bill goes to markup?

Mr. BENJAMIN. Then we can consider it. Of course, there are several stages. It can obviously be considered and inserted by the Senate Legislative Branch Subcommittee on Appropriations, and then we can have a finale of that in the conference. I would not anticipate what that authorizing committee would do for the simple reason that we had some difficulties with the Hart Building last year, and I think all capital expenditure would be subject to a great deal of scrutiny. I don't think you would want to lose it that

way.

Ŏbviously, it is the two Public Works committees that can authorize the building. But this appropriation has to be voted on by both the House and Senate.

In the meantime, I have not looked at the environmental impact statement, although I have a copy of it. I would hope you would consider our experience with the Hart Building and would go through your plans and make sure we don't have excessive luxuries for a governmental agency. I don't know that you have any. Mr. BOYLE. It is a factory, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. BENJAMIN. I just caution you. I know the debate that occurred last year on the supplemental when we took up that Hart Building. We didn't get very far with it, but I remember the dialogue.

We will insert pages V-1 through V-4 into the record.

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