Mr. DEVAUGHN. Yes. Whatever the excess was, we would ask for the deficiency appropriation, just the way we are doing here. Mr. BENJAMIN. Incidentally, is this $3,819,000 deficiency appropriation after the 5 percent obligation has been withheld? Mr. DEVAUGHN. No, sir. Mr. BENJAMIN. Then if I understand you, we are not only looking at the possibility of not withholding the $5,431,000, but we are also looking at an addition to the 1979 appropriation of $3,819,000. Mr. DEVAUGHN. There are two other appropriations available to us. We are not conceding complete defeat yet. This is only the Printing and Binding Appropriation. We also have the Congressional Printing and Binding, and we have the Superintendent of Documents' Salaries and Expenses. REPROGRAMING POSSIBILITY Mr. BENJAMIN. Is the GPO in a position to reprogram instead of requesting a deficiency appropriation? Mr. DEVAUGHN. No, sir. Mr. BENJAMIN. That is a flat no? Mr. BOYLE. We don't have any funds to reprogram. Mr. DEVAUGHN. We lack authority. Mr. BOYLE. We are totally dependent on saying yes to the Congress and delivering the amount of work they require at the cost that is required to do it, and we don't have any control over the volume. We don't have any money to reprogram. We also can't reprogram on the basis of an executive agency by saying, we are going to stop printing bills because we have more hearings than we anticipated or vice versa. Mr. BENJAMIN. Let's look at it this way. If I understand what you are saying, this deficiency appropriation comes up because of orders that were submitted and completed in a following fiscal year. You then program what the costs are originally estimated to be, and obligate the funds. You never liquidated the funds, or you only liquidated a part of that obligation. That would mean that you would have jobs started now in fiscal year 1979 that conceivably would not be completed in fiscal year 1980, so consequently you are not going to liquidate those funds. Apparently, you may come back to us in 1981 for fiscal year 1980 or 1979. You are telling me that those funds could not be reprogrammed? Mr. DEVAUGHN. I am not sure I know what you mean by "reprogramming." Mr. BENJAMIN. I say to you in all candor that I don't think we are going to get a supplemental. Mr. DEVAUGHN. I am not sure I know what you mean by "reprogram. Mr. BENJAMIN. Where you have obligated the funds you say at this point you are going to use it as an outlay for jobs actually done. Mr. DEVAUGHN. Yes, sir. Mr. BENJAMIN. I think somebody had better look at that, because I don't visualize, and I could be absolutely wrong, that there is going to be a general supplemental. Mr. BOYLE. We will take another look at it. OFFICE OF SUPERINTENDENT OF DOCUMENTS Mr. BENJAMIN. Office of Superintendent of Documents. You are requesting $23,037,000 for 1980, a decrease of $163,000 from the 1979 appropriations enacted to date. How many positions does this request include? Mr. LABARRE. 383. That is on page IV-2, sir. Mr. BENJAMIN. We will insert the budget schedule and justification material (IV-1 through IV-5 and supporting statement) in the record at this point. [The information follows:] OFFICE OF SUPERINTENDENT OF DOCUMENTS SALARIES AND EXPENSES For necessary expenses of the Office of Superintendent of Documents, including compensation of all employees in accordance with the provisions of 44 U.S.C. 305; travel expenses (not to exceed $88,300): Provided, That expenditures in connection with travel expenses of the Depository Library Council to the Public Printer shall be deemed necessary to carry out the provisions of chapter 19 of title 44, United States Code; price lists and bibliographies; repairs to buildings, elevators, and machinery; and supplying books to depository libraries; [$23,200,000] $23,037,000: Provided further, That $300,000 of this appropriation shall be apportioned for use pursuant to section 3679 of the Revised Statutes, as amended (31 U.S.C. 665), with the approval of the Public Printer, only to the extent necessary to provide for expenses (excluding permanent personal services) for workload increases not anticipated in the budget estimates and which cannot be provided for by normal budgetary adjustments. (Legislative Branch Appropriation Act, 1979.) Salaries and expenses estimated requirements for fiscal year 1980 1. Personnel compensation.. 2. Personnel benefits.. 3. Travel and transportation of persons 4. Transportation of things- 5. Rent, communications, and utilities. 6. Printing and reproduction.. 7. Other services.. 8. Supplies and materials.. 9. Machinery and equipment.. Contingency fund. Total.... $4,860, 000 484, 000 45, 000 74, 000 4, 135, 000 10, 447, 000 2, 108, 000 510, 000 74, 000 300, 000 $23, 037, 000 |