structed in accordance with the NASA design criteria and construction standards that have been prepared as requested by the Congress.

With the permission of the chairman, I would like to call on our individual division directors to discuss the requirements for these new facilities which support the programs of aeronautics, human factors, space power, chemical propulsion, and electronics and control.

Mr. MYERS. I would just like to point out a couple of facts here and I think I mentioned some of these in going through the other testimony. As you know one of the two most vital resources we have in research are our people and our unique research equipment. The total research plant in the research centers as of June 30, 1964, represents $680 million and, of course, that is exclusive of construction that has not appeared above ground as yet and that will be added as capitalized equipment, as it is constructed; but for this large $680 million national investment in aeronautical and space research we find that each year we must add and upgrade that competence-add to, modify in some cases, and upgrade that competence for our technical program support and sometimes we require general support items.

Referring back to table 1 (fig. 218), I would just like to point out to give you a little bit of feel for what has been going on in the research construction of facilities program that in fiscal year 1964 this shows by Center, the program as authorized and approved by the Congress and fiscal year 1964 we had about sixty-three and a half mil

lion dollar program, and fiscal year 1965, 28.26 and 1966 21.197 of which $10 million is the next installment, so to speak, on the establishment of the Electronics Research Center.

The only point I wish to make is that we feel this is a very austere and reasonable construction of facilities program and it's really a minimal program that we have had. We have enjoyed good construction programs that have supported our programs in the past and we look forward to other facilities as they are needed for research in years to

come.

I just want to point this out to indicate this is a rather modest construction program for this kind of activity. In the next slide the last slide is a summary the fiscal year 1966 request which if you like, with your permission we can go right into that and start taking them up facility by facility.

Mr. HECHLER. Yes, very good. May I ask first, before we start on Electronics Research Centers, how much of the current $10 million for fiscal 1965 has been expended or obligated or how much do you expect to have?

Mr. MYERS. You said expended or obligated-and expect to have. Mr. HECHLER. By June 30, 1965.

Mr. MYERS. We have not obligated any of the fiscal year 1965construction of facilities appropriations to date and I think tomorrow in the discussion, Mr. Hechler, on ECC we can get into the projection

when we might initiate construction there and what our plans are and what the latest is, so to speak.

I would say just in passing that we probably will not obligate any of those funds in this fiscal year.

Mr. WOLFF. Mr. Myers, I would like one question. Under various locations you have the M-1 engine facility 1965. What portion of that has been expended and what will be expended for 1965?

Mr. MYERS. I don't have that number, Mr. Chairman. I will have to give you that for the record as to the actual portions that's being expended.

Dr. BISPLINGHOFF. Mr. Chairman, I would like to add very briefly here that in our planning now for the M-1 engine program we have ceased spending any more money on M-1 facilities and in order to complete the M-1 program in a way that-in order to phase out the M-1 program in a way we will get maximum benefit from that program, we propose to reprogram some of these facilities money into the R. & D. money area so that although we cannot give you the amount that has been obligated so far offhand we can supply that for the record, but I just wanted to add this is our plan.

Mr. WOLFF. In other words, so you will use up the total $3.7 million?

Dr. BISPLINGHOFF. That is right, we will reprogram some of that money.

We will program some of that money into R. & D.

In answer to your question, Mr. Wolff, on the portion of the M-1 fund expended so far, Mr. Tischler tells me we have used about $2,140,000 so far for facilities purchases out of that sum you mentioned.

Mr. WOLFF. I am sorry we have to bring this portion of the hearings to a close.

Mr. HECHLER. Mr. Chairman, I suggest that the committee, if it's agreeable with NASA personnel and members of the committee, should meet tomorrow at 9:15 a.m. Is that agreeable?

Dr. BISPLINGHOFF. Certainly, 9:15.

Mr. WOLFF. Mr. Myers, I want to thank you very much for giving us your time and being as cooperative as you have. Dr. Bisplinghoff also.

Dr. BISPLINGHOFF. Thank you.

Mr. MYERS. Thank you, sir.

Mr. WOLFF. We will meet tomorrow morning at 9:15. Now the meeting is adjourned.

(Whereupon at 12:15 p.m. the subcommittee was adjourned to reconvene the following day at 9:15 a.m.)

1966 NASA AUTHORIZATION

THURSDAY, MARCH 18, 1965

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND ASTRONAUTICS,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON ADVANCED RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met at 9:15 a.m., in room 214-B, Longworth House Office Building, the Honorable Ken Hechler (chairman) presiding.

Mr. HECHLER. The committee will be in order.

At the conclusion of yesterday's session of the committee we were discussing construction of the facilities at the various centers.

This morning we will continue with construction at the Langley Research Center to be followed by discussion of construction of facilities at Lewis Research Center.

After we have considered those two Centers we will continue with a discussion of both program and facilities at the Electronics Research Center.

We will start with a discussion of facilities at Langley Research Center and Mr. C. W. Harper is here. Mr. Harper, I wonder if you would like to make an extremely brief opening statement on those portions of the facilities at Langley that are in your phase?

Mr. HARPER. Yes, sir; I would.

Mr. HECHLER. You may proceed.

STATEMENT OF C. W. HARPER, DIRECTOR, AERONAUTICS DIVISION OF NASA

Mr. HARPER. Thank you.

Mr. Chairman, members of the subcommittee, for Langley Research Center we are requesting a modification to two existing hypersonic wind tunnels which operate from a common power source. A detailed description of the proposed modification and a cost breakdown will be found beginning on page CF 5-12 of your report.

These wind tunnels were first put to operation in 1958 and represent a research facility investment of something slightly over $1.4 million. They have been in continuous use since their construction.

The modification is designed to expand their research capability beyond their original intent. This research need arises from a rapidly growing interest in hypersonic flight with winged vehicles, whereas the tunnels were built to study hypersonic flight of reentry bodies. The need for modification to accomplish this new research arises from the following shown on figure 220.

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