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SENATE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS

JOHN L, MCCLELLAN, Arkansas, Chairman HENRY M. JACKSON, Washington

KARL E. MUNDT, South Dakota SAM J. ERVIN, JR., North Carolina

MILWARD L. SIMPSON, Wyoming ERNEST GRUENING, Alaska

CARL T. CURTIS, Nebraska
EDMUND S. MUSKIE, Maine

JACOB K. JAVITS, New York
ABRAHAM RIBICOFF, Connecticut
FRED R. HARRIS, Oklahoma
ROBERT F. KENNEDY, New York
LEE METCALF, Montana
JOSEPH M. MONTOYA, New Mexico

JAMES R. CALLOWAY, Chief Clerk and Staff Director
ELI E. NOBLEMAN, Professional Staf Member

ARTHUR A. SHARP, Staj Editor

SUBCOMMITTEE ON EXECUTIVE REORGANIZATION

ABRAHAM RIBICOFF, Connecticut, Chairman JOHN L. MCCLELLAN, Arkansas

JACOB K. JAVITS, New York ERNEST GRUENING, Alaska

MILWARD L. SIMPSON, Wyoming ROBERT F. KENNEDY, New York

CARL T. CURTIS, Nebraska
FRED R. HARRIS, Oklahoma
JOSEPH M. MONTOYA, New Mexico

JEROME SONOSKY, Staff Director and General Counsel

PHILIP COOK, Professional Staff Member
ROBERT WAGER, Assistant Counsel
ESTHER NEWBERG, Chief Clerk

CONTENTS

Message from the President of the United States to the Congress, dated

April 25, 1966, transmitting Reorganization Plan No. 3 of 1966 (H. Doc.

No. 428) -

Staff Memo No. 89–2–25 dated June 6, 1966

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REORGANIZATION PLAN NO. 3 OF 1966

(Health Functions-Department of Health, Education, and

Welfare)

FRIDAY, JUNE 17, 1966

U.S. SENATE,
SUBCOMMITTEE ON EXECUTIVE REORGANIZATION,
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:05 a.m., in room 3302, New Senate Office Building, Senator Abraham Ribicoff (chairman) presiding

Present: Senators Ribicoff and Harris.

Also present: Jerome Sonosky, staff director and general counsel; Robert Wager, assistant counsel, Subcommittee on Executive Reorganization; James R. Calloway, chief clerk and staff director, and Eli E. Nobleman, professional staff member, Committee on Government Operations.

Senator RIBICOFF. The meeting will be in order. This will be a hearing on Reorganization Plan No. 3, providing for reorganization of health functions of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare. I wonder, Dr. Lee, Mr. Simpson, Dr. Stewart, and Harold Seidman, if you would all come to the table, that we might be informed-all your formal statements will be in the record as if read, and if you will devote your time basically in the discussion before the committee of what basically you are trying to do, what you are trying to accomplish, what you consider are the needs and why this reorganization plan should be approved; I think that you can interrupt one another and as I said, your prepared statements will go in the record as read.

Before we proceed, I will insert in the record at this point a copy of the President's message transmitting Reorganization Plan No. 3, and a staff memorandum prepared by Mr. Eli E. Nobleman of the full committee staff.

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