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lem, whereas public health is only one facet of that overall problem.

Reorganization Plan No. 2 comes hard on the heels of last year's congressional action which created the Federal Water Pollution Control Administration. Its theme is that water pollution is a conservation problem and that responsibility for it should be vested in the Department of the Interior which already administers a number of water resources programs. This viewpoint has logic and conservationists would hope that this transfer, if accomplished, would be the forerunner of several other transfers to the Interior Department of scattered water resources programs. It is hoped that reorganization messages on these programs are forthcoming promptly.

These programs were brought out in the committee's questions.

The conservationists' concern with the transfer of water pollution statement program responsibilities to the Department of the Interior centers on how vigorously the program will be administered and implemented in that agency. It is on familiar grounds in the HEW Department, close and continuing contacts have been established with State and local governments, and the operating system has been perfected over the years. A transfer to the Interior Department undoubtedly would necessitate many realinements, and conservationists want to be assured how these will be done.

I should say frankly, too, that conservationists supported elevation of the program to administration status in HEW to free it of domination by interests having a parochial concept of water pollution abatement. They want to be assured that the administration will have the same independent status in the Interior Department, under the supervision of an Assistant Secretary, as it now has in HEW. There are indications that the Department of the Interior is contemplating some internal reorganization if the administration is transferred there. We want to know what the Department is planning, and we hope that this committee will insist on knowing, so that we can be assured that the pollution abatement program will not be dissipated or weakened. Conservationists are pleased that water pollution control has an Assistant Secretary to supervise it, and we do not want the effectiveness of the Assistant Secretary blunted by his assignment to supervise several other programs in addition.

Secondly, there is apprehension about the vigor with which the program may be administered when it is housed in the same department with agencies handling oil and gas, mining, irrigation, and other activities that may contribute to the pollution of water. Law enforcement is a vital part of the national effort to abate and discourage water pollution. It must be pressed vigorously and impartially, as it is at present. We want assurance that law enforcement will not be softened, and that all required action will be supported fully on the basis of what is proper for the abatement and prevention of water pollution. Conservationists want assurance, too, that even though the standards of water quality required under the law may not have been established for all States that law enforcement will continue to proceed in every area where there is obvious and objectionable gross pollution.

It is believed that these assurances, plus discussion of the Secretary of the Interior's plans for the program are important for two reasons. The first, of course, is that conservationists in Congress and across the Nation want to be assured that there will be no relaxation in the tremendous impetus that has been developed for the abatement and pre

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vention of water polluion. This program, like few others, have vigorous public support, and there will be no end of dissatisfaction if it is permitted to slow down.

Also, an outstanding staff has been assembled at all levels during the years that the program has been in the Health, Education, and Welfare Department. These persons are highly skilled and dedicated professionals. They want—and most certainly deserve an under

—standing of what is in store for the program in the Interior Department. They need assurance, too, that nothing will be done that will lessen their professional involvement in the program.

Conservationists want these assurances, too, Mr. Chairman, and it is hoped that the committee will make every effort to clarify these and other points that will be raised.

I do not believe that the point which I am about to make has been brought out before. Conservationists want assurance, too, even though the standards of water quality required under the law may not have been established for all States, that law enforcement will continue without letup in every area where there is obviously objectionable gross pollution.

Finally, Senator, I wish to join with Mr. Kimball and others who have expressed the hope that the cognizance for the appropriations and also the substantive part of the program will remain with the present committees. The Nation, conservationists, and the Congress itself, I think have a tremendous investment in the talents and in the expertise of the gentlemen that are now handling the program, both on the congressional side as members as well as the committee staffs.

Senator RIBICOFF. Thank you very much.
Mr. POOLE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator MUSKIE. Thank you very much.
We may need that when we go to conference.

Senator RIBICOFF. I think everyone who indicated a desire to be heard has been heard and anyone else who may like to file a statement certainly should feel free to do so. Thank you very much. (Whereupon, at 11:25 a.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.)

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APPENDIX

MEMORANDUM To: Chairman Abraham Ribicoff. From : Jerome Sonosky, staff director and general counsel. Subject: Organization of Federal Water Pollution Control Administration Under

Reorganization Plan No. 2 of 1966 Following completion of the hearings on Reorganization Plan No. 2 of 1966 two documents have come to the attention of the staff which would be appropri. ate for inclusion in the record of the hearings.

The first document is a proposed headquarters organization chart of the FWPCA dated April 1, 1966 together with a statement of functions. This was prepared in DHEW but was not presented at the April 6–7 hearings although obviously it was available. (See Exhibit 1, p. 95.)

The second document is an appendix to a DHEW planning group report entitled “Proposed Organization of the Federal Water Pollution Control Administration" dated October 1965. (See Exhibit 2, p. 96.)

There are striking similarities in the proposed organization set forth in the two documents except for enforcement activities.

DOCUMENT 1

STATEMENT OF FUNCTIONS

Administers national programs to enhance and improve the Nation's water supply and its uses through the prevention, control, and abatement of water pollution. Under the direction of the Secretary and Assistant Secretary, administers the Federal Water Pollution Control Act, as amended, and related water pollution responsibilities assigned by the Public Works and Economic Development Act of 1965 and the Appalachian Regional Development Act of 1965 ; Executive Order 11258, “Prevention, Control, and Abatement of Water Pollution by Federal Activities”; and water quality responsibilities resulting from interagency activities and agreements. Office of the Commissioner

(1) Plans, approves, directs, and coordinates the administration programs and budgets; (2) develops and promulgates policies, regulations, and procedures; (3) provides administrative management and support services to headquarters and field components of the administration; (4) directs, coordinates, and supports administration participation in interagency activities.

Program Ofice.-(1) Develop and coordinates on a continuing basis Administration plans, programs, and budgets, including goals and objectives; (2) provides continuing evaluation of ongoing programs and accomplishments in terms of goals and objectives; (3) prepares and coordinates preparation of special reports required or requested by the President, committees of the Congress, Bureau of the Budget, etc.

Enforcement Office.-(1) Prepares and coordinates preparation of enforcement actions to be taken by the Secretary on his own initiative or at the request of a Governor or a State water pollution control agency; (2) prepares and coordinates preparation of enforcement actions resulting from violation of water quality standards adopted for interstate waters; (3) provides postenforcement coordination and surveillance activities for compliance with the Secretary's recommendations.

Administrative Office.-(1) Provides administrative management and support services to headquarters and field components of the Administration--financial management, personnel, contracting, procurement, property, reports and records management, etc.

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Bureau of Technical Operations

(1) Under the direction of the Commissioner, plans, approves, directs, and coordinates the programs, budgets, and activities of the Divisions of Comprehensive Programs, Technical Services, Enforcement Services, and Pollution Surveillance; (2) develops and recommends policies and procedures; (3) provides staff services to the Commissioner and represents him on interagency and intradepartmental committees on appointment.

Division of Comprehensive Programs.-(1) Plans, coordinates and directs the development of comprehensive water pollution control programs and related proj. ects for the prevention, abatement, and control of pollution of surface and underground waters; (2) provides staff services to the Bureau and the Office of the Commissioner.

Division of Technical Services.-(1) Provides, on request, technical assistance to other Federal agencies, State and interstate agencies, municipalities, industries, and individuals relating to pollution problems and their solutions; (2) provides technical assistance to other program components of the Administration; (3) plans, develops, and carries out special field projects on solution of specific pollution problems through practical application of existing knowledge; (4) recommends, after study, on the need for and value of water storage in any Federal reservoir project for the purposes of water quality control and for municipal and industrial water supply.

Division of Enforcement Services.-(1) Prepares and conducts technical surveys, studies, and reports in the preparation of Federal enforcement actions; (2) prepares and conducts special surveys and studies on specific pollution problems defined in an enforcement action for which there is no immediate solution; (3) maintains surveillance on compliance with the Secretary's recommendations resulting from an enforcement action, and the remedial measures and time schedules agreed on in connection therewith: (4) maintains surveillance on compliance with adopted interstate water quality standards and their enforcement.

Division of Pollution Surveillance.-(1) Plans, develops, and coordinates programs for the collection, evaluation, and dissemination of chemical, physical, and biological water quality data and related water pollution information, including national inventories of water supply and waste treatment facilities and needs; (2) plans, develops, coordinates, and maintains computer systems for data storage and retrieval in support of Administration comprehensive programs, enforcement studies, and special study projects; (3) plans, encourages, and supports the development and use of automatic data collection devices and systems: (4) plans and maintains a laboratory quality control program to insure uniformity and accuracy of all water quality data collection in Administration programs. Bureau of Facilities programs

(1) Under the direction of the Commissioner, plans, approves, directs, and coordinates the programs, budgets, and activities of the Divisions of Facilities Construction Grants, Facilities Demonstration Grants, and Federal Facilities; (2) develops and recommends policies, regulations, and procedures; (3) provides staff services to the Commissioner and represents him on interagency and intradepartmental committees on appointment.

Division of Facilities Construction Grants.-(1) Administers the program of grants to States, municipalities, and intermunicipal and interstate agencies for the construction of necessary treatment works to prevent the discharge of untreated or inadequately treated wastes. Annual appropriation authorization, $150 million.

Division of Facilities Demonstration Grants.—(1) Administers the program of grants to States, municipalities, and intermunicipal or interstate agencies for assisting in the development of projects which demonstrate new or improved methods of controlling discharges of untreated or inadequately treated sewage or other wastes from sewers which carry storm water or both storm water and sewage or other wastes; and the program of contracts with public or private agencies and institutions and with individuals for the same purpose. Annual appropriation authorization $20 million of which up to $5 million may be used for contracting.

Division of Federal Facilities.-(1) Administers the programs required of the Administration under Executive Order 11258 for the prevention, control, and abatement of water pollution caused by Federal activities which include (a) Review of proposed pollution control and treatment measures proposed for new Federal installation and provision of advice on their adequacy and effectiveness; (b) consult and advise Federal agencies on their plans to control

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