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Mrs. HANSEN. Heat and light?

Mr. FISH. Yes, ma'am. Say about $550,000 is the utilities, heat and light.

Mrs. HANSEN. Will you be involved in the replacement of all segments of the utilities?

Mr. FISH. We would see it as normal wear and tear, again; we would be involved in changing of light bulbs.

Mrs. HANSEN. I am speaking about the heating and air-conditioning systems. As you know, there is a limited life to this equipment. When it's time to replace this equipment will you have to replace them?

Mr. FLYNN. Not major units. If something really went wrong with their whole air-conditioning system, we would go to the Kennedy Center for them to replace it.

Mr. FISH. Or the contractor if it is still under warranty.

Mrs. HANSEN. How long is the warranty?

Mr. FISH. I would think it varies on the different pieces of equip

ment.

Mrs. HANSEN. How long is your heating and air-conditioning warranty?

Mr. STEVENS. I think we would have to get that information.
Mrs. HANSEN. Insert the information in the record.

Mr. STEVENS. Generally speaking, it is a year. Most of it is a year. (The information follows:)

WARRANTIES FOR HEATING AND AIR-CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT

All heating and air-conditioning units at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts operated under a 1-year warranty. The warranties for such equipment have expired.

Mrs. HANSEN After your guarantee has expired and it is necessary to replace a heating system, who replaces it?

Mr. FISH. The way we are looking at it, it would be the Board of the Kennedy Center, because it is not our facility, it is not our building. Mr. FLYNN. And we only have legislative authority for 1 year to operate the nonperforming arts functions. So we feel we will do the normal maintenance and everything like that, but not beyond that. We just hope everything stays together for a year.

Mrs. HANSEN. Is your contract going to stipulate that?

Mr. FLYNN. Yes.

OTHER SERVICES

Mrs. HANSEN. You are also requesting $729,000 for other services. Give us a detailed breakdown of what this involves.

Mr. FISH. We have that, Madam Chairman; for some reason we are about $9,000 off.

Mrs. HANSEN. This includes your air-conditioning contract, elevator and escalator maintenance contract, janitorial contract, furnishing rotation and storage of interior trees, and miscellaneous repairs.

You have miscellaneous repairs by contract, $37,000. Will you explain that?

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Mr. FISH. There is some radio equipment that has to be maintained by Motorola. That is a small contract. The computer console that I mentioned earlier.

Mrs. HANSEN. Please explain the radio contract.

Mr. FISH. This would be a system for the security guards, and also for the maintenance functions.

Mrs. HANSEN. This is a radio system that is in effect at the present time?

Mr. FISH. Yes.

Mrs. HANSEN. Do you have security by closed circuit television? Mr. FISH. We do not, Madam Chairman.

Mrs. HANSEN. What else is involved in this miscellaneous repairs by contract? These are existing contracts?

Mr. FISH. Yes. I would have to supply the rest for the record. (The information follows:)

Trash removal.

ITEMS UNDER "OTHER CHARGES"

Radio maintenance and rental.

Computer for mechanical system.

Production of special architectural signs.

Mechanical consultant contract.

Numerous estimated special purpose contracts as may be needed for maintenance and repairs which cannot be performed by site employees.

SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS

Mrs. HANSEN. You are also requesting $315,000 for supplies and materials. What is your justification for your requesting this amount? Mr. FISH. May we supply that for the record?

Mrs. HANSEN. Is it janitorial supplies?

Mr. FISH. Yes; that type of thing, again for maintaining the mechanical equipment, filters for oil and so forth.

Mrs. HANSEN. Filters for air conditioning?

Mr. FISH. Yes; janitorial supplies, the whole thing. We have had a very good opportunity to take a look at this, and base it on some actual experience.

(The information follows:)

The $315.000 requested for supplies and materials is based on certain known needs, a review of purchases made by the Center during the past years, and an estimate of future needs due to possible equipment breakdown needing replacement parts.

The following is a breakdown of estimated costs of supplies and materials: Uniforms for police and guards__

Interpretive material..

Uniforms and meals for approximately 100 volunteers__.

$5,000

15,000

Trees and planters for rotation of interior plantings__

10,000

Filters

Plants, mulch, fertilizer, etc., for plantings on terrace-
Carpet and wallscaping replacements__

22,000

5,000

38,500

Miscellaneous tools__

15,000

Electric bulbs..

20,000

Miscellaneous electrical supplies..

42,000

Carpenters and plasterers supplies_.

15,000

etc.)

Housekeeping type supplies (cleaning, paper, deodorizing, disinfectants,

9,000

Office supplies

35,000

Plumbing supplies including fixture replacements-

1,000

15,000

Estimated costs of supplies and materials-Continued.

Communications time clocks, et cetera___

Painting supplies

Scaffolding

Miscellaneous hardware.......

Mechanical plant replacement parts---

Total

Mrs. HANSEN. Mr. Obey?

$3,000

2,000

10, 000

5,000

47, 500

315, 000

Mr. OBEY. No questions, Madam Chairman. I think you have covered it thoroughly.

Mr. PROULX. That is one item, to relamp, $18,000, and to relamp in the other theaters, $13,000. This is just to relamp. These are supplies. Mrs. HANSEN. Isn't this part of the performing arts cost?

Mr. FISH. Again it would be on the formula basis.

Mrs. HANSEN. Everything is formula basis?

Mr. FISH. I was going to say there were three items.

Mrs. HANSEN. What are the three?

Mr. FISH. Security, which was attributable to nonperforming arts 100 percent, the interpretation attributable to nonperforming arts, 100 percent, and the tree maintenance, which was 100 percent nonperforming.

Mrs. HANSEN. Mr McDade?

Mr. McDADE. No questions. You have covered it very well.

Mrs. HANSEN. I thank you very much. You have all been very frank and forthright.

SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEPARTMENTS OF STATE, JUSTICE, AND COMMERCE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES

JOHN J. ROONEY, New York, Chairman

ROBERT L. F. SIKES, Florida

JOHN M. SLACK, West Virginia
NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOHN J. FLYNT, Jr., Georgia

FRANK T. BOW, Ohio

ELFORD A. CEDERBERG, Michigan
MARK ANDREWS, North Dakota

Jay B. Howe and Dempsey B. Mizelle, Staff Assistants

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 1972.

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

LEGAL ACTIVITIES AND GENERAL ADMINISTRATION

SALARIES AND EXPENSES, GENERAL ADMINISTRATION

OFFICE OF NATIONAL NARCOTICS INTELLIGENCE

WITNESSES

WILLIAM C. SULLIVAN, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF NATIONAL NARCOTICS INTELLIGENCE (ONNI)

0. T. BERKMAN, JR., ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ADMINISTRATION AND INTELLIGENCE DISSEMINATION, ONNI

GLEN E. POMMERENING, DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR ADMINISTRATION

JOHN J. KAMINSKI, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF BUDGET AND ACCOUNTS

Mr. SLACK. The committee will please come to order.

This afternoon, gentlemen, we shall direct our attention to supplemental requests for fiscal year 1973. The first item is for the Department of Justice, Legal Activities and General Administration, Salaries and Expenses, General Administration.

This item is to be found at page 3 of House Document 92-330. The request is for $2,500,000.

JUSTIFICATIONS

We shall insert at this point in the record pages 1 through 8 of the justifications.

(The justification pages referred to follow :)

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