Mr. LAWLER. We have a schedule that outlines the various leadership offices, and it actually builds the dollar amount of the request, showing each little integral part as the statutory positions and the lump sum allowances. H. Res. 393 was a very important resolution in 1977 and accounted for several of those differences.

ACTUAL EXPENDITURES IN TABLES

Mr. SMITH. What does it mean where it shows estimated expenditures zero, but you are estimating appropriations at $103,580? Why are we appropriating if there is estimated to be no expense?

Mr. COLLEY. Mr. Smith, we have to budget what is authorized for an individual office. Whether the office obligates the money or expends it is not our decision.

Mr. SMITH. That is something new. You mean you budget the total amount that is authorized?

Mr. COLLEY. In certain accounts, yes. We are not always privy to what those offices will do. They are authorized the funds in that account, and unless they tell us directly not to include them in the budget, we have to include them in most instances.

Mr. HENSHAW. We have contacted these offices, if I might add, Mr. Smith, to find out what they want to request for their budget. Mr. SMITH. And they want it in there, even though they don't think they will use it?

Mr. HENSHAW. This is what they feel their need will be for the fiscal year.

Mr. SMITH. How do you get a need of $103,580? They must have estimated they are not going to spend anything.

Mr. COLLEY. There is no way we have an estimated expenditure for 1980.

Mr. HENSHAW. It is not expended yet, so we can't put it down. Mr. SMITH. It says estimated expenditures. You show a zero, but you mean it doesn't really mean zero?

Mr. LAWLER. The column headings are the appropriations and the actual expenditures, so inasmuch as fiscal year 1980 has not yet started, we just placed a zero there.

Mr. SMITH. Where it says expenditures, that is not estimated, but actual.

Mr. HENSHAW. Yes, like 1978 and 1979, we show those as taking place.

Mr. SMITH. I see. I thought you meant that was estimated, too. Mr. LAWLER. The fiscal year 1978 column would be the best indication of the rate of spending that the various offices are incurring as most of the obligations are in for fiscal year 1978. Mr. HENSHAW. Would you like me to proceed, Mr. Chairman? Mr. BENJAMIN. Please.

SALARIES, OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES

Mr. HENSHAW. For compensation and expenses of Officers and Employees as authorized by law, $29,673,300.

I shall list the amounts presently estimated for each office. In most instances, the increases over fiscal year 1979 are for the pay increases for House employees. The employees of House Officers who are under the House Employees Schedule, House Wage Sched

ule and House Wage Supervisory Schedule also received the cost of living pay increase last year.

Mr. Chairman, the graph on page 13 of our justification illustrates the personnel history of four of the Officers of the House for the past 10 years. The graph on page 14 shows the appropriations history of the last 10 years for 4 of the Officers of the House.

OFFICE OF THE CLERK

Mr. HENSHAW. The total appropriation request for my immediate office and the offices operating under the Clerk's direction and supervision is $8,378,400. This represents an increase of $836,800 over the appropriations approved to date for the current fiscal year. However, when you add the pending supplemental, the estimate for fiscal year 1980 is an increase of $440,500.

The two charts I mention follow, showing both the personnel and the appropriations history.

[The charts follow:]

ANALYSIS OF POSITION INCREASES

Mr. HENSHAW. At the beginning of fiscal year 1978, we had a total of 348 permanent positions. During fiscal year 1978, the Committee on House Administration authorized 26 new employees for my office: three positions in my immediate office, seven positions in the Office of Finance, 13 positions in Property Supply, two positions in the House Recording Studio and one position of Assistant Chief Telephone Operator. However, six positions were abolished and the Official Reporters of Debates, Official Reporters to Committees and the Summary of Proceedings and Debates, for a total of 52 positions, were placed under my authority. Our total authorized budgeted positions number 420, a net increase of 72 positions. However, after the budget was submitted to OMB, the Committee on House Administration authorized an additional 12 positions for the House Recording Studio and one additional position in the Office of Records and Registration. The 12 positions will be used primarily for broadcast coverage of House proceedings. This brings the total authorized level to 433 positions. Mr. Chairman, I might add that we will need to come in with a program supplemental for about $264,000 for fiscal year 1979 to cover the costs of these 13 positions.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Let me go over these figures with you. You note that the authorized positions for the Office of Clerk is 420. You explain by pointing out that in fiscal year 1978 you had a total of 348 "permanent positions"-that you were then authorized an additional 26 employees. This would total 374. You then lost 6 positions, which left you with 368. You then added the Official Reporters of Debates, Official Reporters to Committees and the Summary of Proceedings and Debates. According to the Subcommittee Print on page 25, these three offices employ 43 people for a total of 411, or an increase of 9 less than you explain in your statement. Is the difference made up of non-permanent positions? You have indicated that of the 13 positions, nine are aboard, if I understand correctly. But would you give us a breakdown on this, to see where we differ?

Mr. HENSHAW. Mr. Chairman, I think there is an error here on the total number of the positions in the summary of proceedings and debates.

Mr. BENJAMIN. How much should that be? It indicates one.

Mr. HENSHAW. Yes, that should be 10, which would make that difference, I think.

Mr. BENJAMIN. So the subcommittee print is wrong on page 25, where it reflects one employee for fiscal year 1978, 1979 and 1980 estimate; it should be 10 in each instance?

Mr. HENSHAW. Yes, sir, I think it is an error in print there. We will check that and supply the findings for the record.

The Subcommittee Print is not in error. All positions under the Clerk are fully accounted for on page 25 of the print. Nine of the Summary of Proceedings and Debates are classified positions under the HS scale and are included with the 213 HS employees under the Clerk.

Mr. BENJAMIN. OK.

Let me ask you, it appears that the majority of the Clerk's positions are under the House employee schedule. How many va