EXPLANATION OF INCREASES AND DECREASES

Mr. BENJAMIN. Explain briefly increases and decreases detailed on page IV-3 of the justifications.

Mr. LABARRE. Personnel compensation, a decrease, $242,000. That will be a decrease because by law we are not permitted to include annual salary increases projected at about $300,000. So it will be approximately the same. That is page IV-4. I expect to save some effort because of automation in the Depository Library Program and in the By-Law Program.

The other large decrease, I will just go over the large ones, sir. Mr. BENJAMIN. That is all I want.

Mr. LABARRE. $583,000 in communications. The reason for that is, we have transferred to the agencies in their page rate costs the cost for mailing the free list of the Federal Register. It has been removed from the By-Law Program.

Mr. BENJAMIN. You say that was $581,000?

Mr. LABARRE. $583,000.

The next large one is $482,000 under contractual and ADP. The expense of 1979 I expect for the automation of the Depository line and on the automation of item books and the automation of the ByLaw line is a one-time expense, and I do not expect additional funding will be needed in that area.

The $136,000, the primary saving there, is for a one-time cost for microfilming the bicentennial Cumulative Index to the Monthly Catalog for 1966 to 1970 and the requirement will not be necessary for another 5 years. I think that is all the large ones, sir.

Anyhow, my appropriation request is less in 1980 than in 1979. Mr. BENJAMIN. Are there any non-recurring items in here that were carried in the 1979 estimate that are used as a base for 1980? Mr. LABARRE. No, sir, I have taken them all out, and those are primarily for investment in automation where I can handle the increased load placed on the Depository Library Program.

EXPLANATION OF PERSONNEL BENEFITS

Mr. BENJAMIN. Explain the personnel benefits item. Are these benefits mandated by statute?

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Would you provide for the record a citation of that?

Mr. LABARRE. They are contributions to retirement, health insurance and life insurance, and they are roughly 10 percent.

Mr. DEVAUGHN. The citation is Title 5.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Don't you use about 8 percent after calculating the lapse rate? You are a little higher.

Mr. LABARRE. The comptroller is with me.

Mr. MERCER. We use about 10 percent.

Mr. BENJAMIN. I guess my question is, why would it be 10 percent for GPO and 8 percent for others?

Mr. MERCER. I don't know, sir.

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir, we will furnish it for the record. [The information follows:]

EXPLANATION OF PERSONNEL BENEFITS

The GPO uses a 10 percent factor to project personnel benefits, because our actual cost experience is 10 percent as shown below.

This 10 percent is in line with other legislative agencies. The General Accounting Office, has a 10 percent rate. The Architect of the Capitol has rates that range from 9.2 to 18 percent, the Capitol Power Plant has a 10 percent rate, and the Library of Congress has rates ranging from 9.8 to 10.5 percent.

This rate will change based on the items included in the benefits. Included in the GPO rate are expenses for the Government contributions to employee group health, life insurance, and retirement plans as well as expenses for Department of Labor accident compensation, incentive awards and uniform allowances.

COST FOR TRAVEL

Mr. BENJAMIN. On travel, what is your figure?

Mr. LABARRE. $45,000.

Mr. BENJAMIN. What traveling is involved there?

Mr. LABARRE. That is primarily two large travel budget expenses. One is for the Depository Library Council to the Public Printer and public expenditures for the Depository Library Program. The other, by far and away the largest expense, is for our inspectors of the Depository Library system. It is required by law that all of the depository libraries be inspected. I have made the decision they should all be looked at once every 3 years. I need this money to make sure the inspectors review the actual operation of each depository library and that they are in fact carrying out the mandate of the law.

Mr. BENJAMIN. How much does that involve in a trip, and how many trips are we talking about?

Mr. LABARRE. Well, sir, I am hiring my third inspector now because of the increase in libraries. These people are gone 9 months out of the 12-month year, and there are 1,300 libraries and they inspect approximately 400 libraries a year.

Mr. BENJAMIN. How much do you use for travel in fiscal year 1978?

Mr. LABARRE. Approximately the same amount, sir.

Mr. BENJAMIN. That was with two inspectors?

Mr. LABARRE. Yes.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Now with three?

Mr. LABARRE. The point is I will have them home much more. It turned out to be a little bit more than two individuals could handle. They were gone too much.

Mr. BENJAMIN. That was 9 months out of 12.

How long will they be home now?

Mr. LABARRE. I expect they will be home about 5 months.

Mr. BENJAMIN. What do they do when they are home?

Mr. LABARRE. We have many other things we wish to have them do. They work in the Depository program. They assist in the cata

EXPLANATION OF INCREASES AND DECREASES

Mr. BENJAMIN. Explain briefly increases and decreases detailed on page IV-3 of the justifications.

Mr. LABARRE. Personnel compensation, a decrease, $242,000. That will be a decrease because by law we are not permitted to include annual salary increases projected at about $300,000. So it will be approximately the same. That is page IV-4. I expect to save some effort because of automation in the Depository Library Program and in the By-Law Program.

The other large decrease, I will just go over the large ones, sir. Mr. BENJAMIN. That is all I want.

Mr. LABARRE. $583,000 in communications. The reason for that is, we have transferred to the agencies in their page rate costs the cost for mailing the free list of the Federal Register. It has been removed from the By-Law Program.

Mr. BENJAMIN. You say that was $581,000?

Mr. LABARRE. $583,000.

The next large one is $482,000 under contractual and ADP. The expense of 1979 I expect for the automation of the Depository line and on the automation of item books and the automation of the ByLaw line is a one-time expense, and I do not expect additional funding will be needed in that area.

The $136,000, the primary saving there, is for a one-time cost for microfilming the bicentennial Cumulative Index to the Monthly Catalog for 1966 to 1970 and the requirement will not be necessary for another 5 years. I think that is all the large ones, sir.

Anyhow, my appropriation request is less in 1980 than in 1979. Mr. BENJAMIN. Are there any non-recurring items in here that were carried in the 1979 estimate that are used as a base for 1980? Mr. LABARRE. No, sir, I have taken them all out, and those are primarily for investment in automation where I can handle the increased load placed on the Depository Library Program.

EXPLANATION OF PERSONNEL BENEFITS

Mr. BENJAMIN. Explain the personnel benefits item. Are these benefits mandated by statute?

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Would you provide for the record a citation of that?

Mr. LABARRE. They are contributions to retirement, health insurance and life insurance, and they are roughly 10 percent.

Mr. DEVAUGHN. The citation is Title 5.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Don't you use about 8 percent after calculating the lapse rate? You are a little higher.

Mr. LABARRE. The comptroller is with me.

Mr. MERCER. We use about 10 percent.

Mr. BENJAMIN. I guess my question is, why would it be 10 percent for GPO and 8 percent for others?

Mr. MERCER. I don't know, sir.

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir, we will furnish it for the record. [The information follows:]

EXPLANATION OF PERSONNEL BENEFITS

The GPO uses a 10 percent factor to project personnel benefits, because our actual cost experience is 10 percent as shown below.

This 10 percent is in line with other legislative agencies. The General Accounting Office, has a 10 percent rate. The Architect of the Capitol has rates that range from 9.2 to 18 percent, the Capitol Power Plant has a 10 percent rate, and the Library of Congress has rates ranging from 9.8 to 10.5 percent.

This rate will change based on the items included in the benefits. Included in the GPO rate are expenses for the Government contributions to employee group health, life insurance, and retirement plans as well as expenses for Department of Labor accident compensation, incentive awards and uniform allowances.

COST FOR TRAVEL

Mr. BENJAMIN. On travel, what is your figure?

Mr. LABARRE. $45,000.

Mr. BENJAMIN. What traveling is involved there?

Mr. LABARRE. That is primarily two large travel budget expenses. One is for the Depository Library Council to the Public Printer and public expenditures for the Depository Library Program. The other, by far and away the largest expense, is for our inspectors of the Depository Library system. It is required by law that all of the depository libraries be inspected. I have made the decision they should all be looked at once every 3 years. I need this money to make sure the inspectors review the actual operation of each depository library and that they are in fact carrying out the mandate of the law.

Mr. BENJAMIN. How much does that involve in a trip, and how many trips are we talking about?

Mr. LABARRE. Well, sir, I am hiring my third inspector now because of the increase in libraries. These people are gone 9 months out of the 12-month year, and there are 1,300 libraries and they inspect approximately 400 libraries a year.

Mr. BENJAMIN. How much do you use for travel in fiscal year 1978?

Mr. LABARRE. Approximately the same amount, sir.

Mr. BENJAMIN. That was with two inspectors?

Mr. LABARRE. Yes.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Now with three?

Mr. LABARRE. The point is I will have them home much more. It turned out to be a little bit more than two individuals could handle. They were gone too much.

Mr. BENJAMIN. That was 9 months out of 12.

How long will they be home now?

Mr. LABARRE. I expect they will be home about 5 months.

Mr. BENJAMIN. What do they do when they are home?

Mr. LABARRE. We have many other things we wish to have them do. They work in the Depository program. They assist in the cata

EXPLANATION OF INCREASES AND DECREASES

Mr. BENJAMIN. Explain briefly increases and decreases detailed on page IV-3 of the justifications.

Mr. LABARRE. Personnel compensation, a decrease, $242,000. That will be a decrease because by law we are not permitted to include annual salary increases projected at about $300,000. So it will be approximately the same. That is page IV-4. I expect to save some effort because of automation in the Depository Library Program and in the By-Law Program.

The other large decrease, I will just go over the large ones, sir. Mr. BENJAMIN. That is all I want.

Mr. LABARRE. $583,000 in communications. The reason for that is, we have transferred to the agencies in their page rate costs the cost for mailing the free list of the Federal Register. It has been removed from the By-Law Program.

Mr. BENJAMIN. You say that was $581,000?

Mr. LABARRE. $583,000.

The next large one is $482,000 under contractual and ADP. The expense of 1979 I expect for the automation of the Depository line and on the automation of item books and the automation of the ByLaw line is a one-time expense, and I do not expect additional funding will be needed in that area.

The $136,000, the primary saving there, is for a one-time cost for microfilming the bicentennial Cumulative Index to the Monthly Catalog for 1966 to 1970 and the requirement will not be necessary for another 5 years. I think that is all the large ones, sir.

Anyhow, my appropriation request is less in 1980 than in 1979. Mr. BENJAMIN. Are there any non-recurring items in here that were carried in the 1979 estimate that are used as a base for 1980? Mr. LABARRE. No, sir, I have taken them all out, and those are primarily for investment in automation where I can handle the increased load placed on the Depository Library Program.

EXPLANATION OF PERSONNEL BENEFITS

Mr. BENJAMIN. Explain the personnel benefits item. Are these benefits mandated by statute?

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Would you provide for the record a citation of that?

Mr. LABARRE. They are contributions to retirement, health insurance and life insurance, and they are roughly 10 percent.

Mr. DEVAUGHN. The citation is Title 5.

Mr. BENJAMIN. Don't you use about 8 percent after calculating the lapse rate? You are a little higher.

Mr. LABARRE. The comptroller is with me.

Mr. MERCER. We use about 10 percent.

Mr. BENJAMIN. I guess my question is, why would it be 10 percent for GPO and 8 percent for others?

Mr. MERCER. I don't know, sir.

Mr. LABARRE. Yes, sir, we will furnish it for the record. [The information follows:]