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NASA WORKS WITH STATES

Senator CANNON. Dr. Paine, if the Governors of other States are interested in some assistance from NASA, who would they contact and how would they go about getting such assistance?

Dr. PAINE. Mr. Chairman, if the Governors contact me directly, they will certainly get a very rapid response. NASA is working closely with the Office of State Technical Services in the Department of Commerce and also with the State technical service organizations throughout the country at the State level. Our Regional Dissemination Centers (RDC's) have been particularly active in working with State centers. In fact, the Director of our Regional Dissemination Center in New Mexico is also the Director of the New Mexico State Technical Service Office. In Indiana, our RDC Director is the associate director of the Indiana State Technical Service Office.

So we welcome inquiries from the States, Mr. Chairman, and can indeed work closely with them.

Senator CANNON. Would you furnish the precise address for the record at this point for those that might be interested?

Dr. PAINE. Fine. The precise address is the Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Washington, D.C.

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STUDY NATION'S TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS

Senator CANNON. I note in your statement you refer to some of the progress so far as transportation was concerned and I am wondering if you are working closely with DOT on this integrated transportation system philosophy.

Dr. PAINE. Indeed we are, Mr. Chairman. The Department of Transportation and NASA are working at the present time on a joint study of the Nation's transportation requirements for the future. It is staffed by both the Department of Transportation and NASA personnel and we hope to be able to report the results of this study to this committee in the future.

PUBLIC INFORMATION ON SPACE BENEFITS

Senator CANNON. You have given us an excellent idea of the truly broad scope of the benefits that the Nation and the world are receiving from our space program. What can be done to bring that information to the American public so they will understand better the worth of the space program?

Dr. PAINE. This is a problem, as I indicated in my testimony, that is receiving a great deal of attention in NASA. The fact that our more spectacular missions tend to outweigh the more mundane story of benefits is one of the problems that we face here. Our very success is making it more difficult for us.

I think what we require here is effort across the board on the part of NASA to find more effective ways of getting the story across. We certainly also appreciate the support that we have had from various people on this committee who are familiar with the NASA story of benefits. The speeches that they have made, both on the floor and other places, have, I think, been of much assistance in getting this story across but it is a very difficult story to tell.

Senator CANNON. You refer in appendix 5 to the fact that in calendar year 1969 speakers were provided for some 2,049 nontechnical groups reaching an audience of some 265,000. Does NASA have a speakers bureau as such where all such requests can be referred?

Dr. PAINE. We have a speakers bureau both on a centralized basis but also around the country at the various NASA centers. In addition we receive tremendous quantities of requests for astronauts to appear before various groups and this is handled centrally from Washington because of the tremendous demand and the fact that it is necessary for us to turn down so many of these requests. But if we can't furnish the speaker that is requested, we try to offer an alternative speaker or a film so that we meet the requests in some manner at least.

Senator CANNON. Is any consideration being given by NASA as to how this particular segment of the public could be reached on a broader scale? In other words, people who could be reached through civic and municipal organizations and persons whose daily life doesn't ordinarily bring them into contact with this sort of thing?

Dr. PAINE. We rely very heavily on the American news media. The television channels, of course, have tremendously effective ways of getting the message out and we furnish them material suitable for release by TV. We furnish the newspapers with a great deal of material on this and I think in the future our task is undoubtedly to make this material more newsworthy, more attractive and more likely to get firstclass attention on the part of the public.

ADDRESSES FOR NASA INFORMATION

Senator CANNON. We hope to print the record of this hearing soon and we hope that it will receive wide public dissemination. For the benefit of those who read it, would you place into the record at the appropriate point the addresses to which the interested readers should inquire if they desire to obtain further information?

Dr. PAINE. Fine. I will do that, Mr. Chairman.

(The information submitted for the record follows:)

NASA TECHNOLOGY UTILIZATION OFFICERS

Assistant Administrator for Technology Utilization, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Code U, Washington, D.C., 20546, 962-4636.

Director, Technology Utilization Division, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Code UT, Washington, D.C., 20546, 963-7925.

Technology Utilization Officer, Ames Research Center, Mail Stop N-200-12, Moffett Field, Mountain View, Calif., 94035, AC 415/961-1111 ext. 2301.

Technology Utilization Officer, Flight Research Center, Box 273, Edwards, Calif., 93523, AC 805/258-3311 ext. 500.

Technology Utilization Officer, Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 207.1, Greenbelt, Md., 20771, AC 301/474-6242.

Technology Utilization Officer, NASA Pasadena Office (JPL), 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, Calif., 91103, AC 213/354-6420.

Technology Utilization Officer, John F. Kennedy Space Center, Code AD-PAT, Kennedy Space Center, Fla., 32899, AC 305/867-2544.

Technology Utilization Officer, Langley Research Center, Langley Station, Mail Stop 103, Hampton, Va., 23365, AC 703/827-3281.

Technology Utilization Officer, Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, Cleveland, Ohio, 44135, AC 216/433-6832.

Technology Utilization Officer, Manned Spacecraft Center, Code BM-7, Houston, Tex., 77058, AC 713/483-3809.

Technology Utilization Officer, Marshall Space Flight Center, Code A&TS-TU, Huntsville, Ala., 35812, AC 205/453-2224.

Technology Utilization Officer, Space Nuclear Propulsion Office, Technology Utilization Branch, Mail Stop F-309/U.S. AEC Building, Germantown, Md., 20545, AC 301/973-3354.

Technology Utilization Officer, Wallops Station, Code AMD-SP, Wallops Island, Va., 23337, AC 703/824-3411 ext. 536.

COMPUTER SOFTWARE MANAGEMENT AND INFORMATION CENTER-COSMIC Director, COSMIC, University of Georgia Computer Center, Athens, Ga., 30601.

REGIONAL DISSEMINATION CENTERS-DIRECTORS

Director, Aerospace Research Applications Center (ARAC), Indiana University Foundation, Bloomington, Ind., 47401.

Director, Knowledge Availability Systems Center (KASC), University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pa., 15213.

Director, New England Research Application Center (NERAC), the University of Connecticut, Storrs, Conn., 06268.

Director, North Carolina Science and Technology Research Center (NCSTRC), P.O. Box 12235, Research Triangle Park, N.C., 27709.

Director, Technology Application Center (TAC), University of New Mexico, Box 185, Albuquerque, N. Mex. 87106.

Director, Western Research Application Center (WESRAC), University of Southern California, Los Angeles, Calif. 90007.

NASA PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICERS

Assistant Administrator for Public Affairs, Office of Public Affairs, NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. 20546, AC 202/963–5302.

Public Affairs Officer, Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. 94036, AC 415/961-1111 ext. 2671.

Public Affairs Officer, Flight Research Center, P.O. Box 273, Edwards, Calif. 93523, AC 805/258-3311 ext. 221.

Public Affairs Officer, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. 20771, AC 301/982-6255 or 4955.

Public Affairs Officer, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, Calif. 91103, AC 213/354-7002.

Public Affairs Officer, John F. Kennedy Space Center, Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899, AC 305/867–2201.

Public Affairs Officer, John F. Kennedy Space Center, Unmanned Launch Operations, Western Test Range, P.O. Box 425, Lompoc, Calif. 93438, AC 805/ 866-1611.

Public Affairs Officer, Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. 23365, AC 703/827-3966.

Public Affairs Officer, Manned Spacecraft Center, Houston, Tex. 77058, AC 713/483-3671.

Public Affairs Officer, Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala. 35812, AC 205/453-0031.

Public Affairs Officer, Michoud Assembly Facility, P.O. Box 29300, New Orleans, La. 70129, AC 504/255-2605.

Public Affairs Officer, Mississippi Test Facility, Bay St. Louis, Miss. 39520, AC 601/688-3341.

Public Affairs Officer, NASA Pasadena Office, 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, Calif. 91103, AC 213/354-6486.

Public Affairs Officer, Nuclear Rocket Development Station, P.O. Box 1, Jackass Flats, Nev. 89023, AC 702/986-5723.

Public Affairs Officer, Wallops Station, Wallops Island, Va. 23337, AC 703/ 824-3411 ext. 248.

Public Affairs Officer, Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, Cleveland, Ohio 44135, AC 216/433-4000 ext. 415, 438, 782.

Senator CURTIS. Mr. Chairman, would you yield right there?
Senator CANNON. I am very happy to yield.

NASA FILM LIBRARY

Senator CURTIS. In reference to material you provide for television stations, I think that is very fine. The local broadcasting station has to sell advertising to stay in business. Many fine educational programs are used but they are used at odd hours. They are used when the competitive television station is broadcasting a football game that everybody is watching, or early in the morning, or at a time of day when they have to have an affiliate. Sometimes their intentions are good and someone comes in and buys the time.

I say this as no criticism of the broadcasters. They have to run the free programs at the time that nobody else wants. The reason no one else wants it is because they have very few viewers.

In this way do you have a film program that tells the same story where many, many copies of film can be created and be made available not only for schools and civic clubs but for local meetings of many kinds where they want the NASA story and it is impractical or expensive to get a big name from the space program to appear.

I am sorry I took so long to ask my question but I thought it fitted in with what you asked.

Dr. PAINE. Senator Curtis, we do have a film library which contains films that tell not only the more dramatic stories of each Apollo mission but also that are specifically aimed at the direct benefits from the space program and these do receive wide distribution.

Last year we had a card in each film that we lent out to different groups to send back to us saying what the size of the audience was that saw that particular film. When we added these up at the end of 1969, some 9.8 million people had sat and watched a NASA film of some description.

Senator CANNON. I might say that I had some personal experience with that just a few weeks ago when NASA furnished one of the newer astronauts, Major Fullerton, and a rather short film from the Apollo 11 shot, which was narrated by Major Fullerton. We had it for the purpose of a women's luncheon group covering about 400 women initially, but he was able to get there in such time that we also visited two high schools during the morning period for a total of about 2,000 people in the general assemblies, and in addition to that, a boys' club meeting in the afternoon. So we are able to reach in excess of about 2,500 of the young people with that mission as well as the basic women's group and it was very, very well put on and I want to compliment you and compliment Major Fullerton.

Senator CURTIS. I am thinking in terms of films that tell the story of NASA developments such as Dr. Paine has told this morning.

ROLE OF NASA EXHIBITS

Senator CANNON. This film covered one particular phase of the program but the narration did cover a lot of the side benefits, the things that you have been talking about here.

Now, in your statement you mentioned the number of people who see NASA exhibits every year and you mention very briefly the fact that you expect 15 million people will view the U.S. space exhibit at Osaka in Japan.

Would you describe more fully the role that NASA exhibits have played in various international exhibits that the United States participates in around the world?

Dr. PAINE. Yes; I will be glad to give you a more complete description of that for the record, Mr. Chairman, but briefly we had an exhibit at the Paris air show last year which was located adjacent to the Soviet Union exhibit, and I think in many ways was indeed the hit of this Paris air show. It came, of course, at a time when there was great interest in the first lunar landing and by all odds was considered the outstanding exhibit. Our exhibits extended all the way from the lunar rock which was exhibited in Moscow to the Japanese Osaka exhibit. In addition, we make exhibits available widely within the United States, both moon rocks and educational exhibits of various sorts.

In addition to that we are putting the Apollo 11 space capsule on a trailer truck and will be moving it through the various State capitals of the Nation during 1970 so that everyone can have a chance to look at this and to see some of the NASA story exhibited alongside this space capsule. So this exhibit program is a program that, I think, doesn't perhaps reach as many people as, let us say, a television show but I think it has a more lasting impact. They have more of a thoughtful opportunity to see parts of the exhibit that interest them the most and learn from it, so we think this a very important program.

Senator CANNON. You haven't lost any more of the moon rocks lately?

Dr. PAINE. No, sir. We have sent out another letter to the people who received samples for analysis waving some rather heavy cudgels in their direction to be more careful.

(The material submitted for the record follows:)

NASA gives extensive support to United States' participation in various foreign exhibits by supplying exhibit materials through the responsible U.S. government agencies. Normally, primary responsibility rests with the United States Information Agency or the Department of Commerce.

In addition to NASA support for official government exhibitors, NASA's historical artifacts are displayed abroad by the Smithsonian Institution. Under an agreement with NASA, artifacts of the space program are turned over to the Smithsonian when they are no longer required for NASA's programs. Foreign exhibits supported by NASA from 1968 to 1970 include the following: Jodrell Bank, University of Manchester, England 1968 (2 year loan). APT receiver (same as exhibited at UN Conference in Vienna). Manitoba Museum of Man & Nature, Winnepeg, Manitoba-This is a longterm recurring exhibit that started in April 1968. 1⁄2 scale Mercury; Gemini; Apollo Programs exhibit.

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Foreign Lunar Sample Exhibits 1969-1970. Six lunar samples were made available to USIA in 1969 for display at major foreign capitals.

America Weeks Promotion-Isetan, Tokyo, Japan May 1968. Gemini spacecraft, Spacesuit, Space foods display.

International Society of Photogrammetry, Lausanne, Switzerland, July 8-20, 1968. Lunar Orbiter and Surveyor photos, Mapping products, Mosaic of Apollo zone, Gemini photos.

Wing on America Week-Space Exhibit, Hong Kong, August 1968. Gemini full-scale model.

UN Conference on Peaceful Uses of Outer Space, Vienna, Austria, August 14-27, 1968. APT receiver, Photo mosaic of cloud cover, Spacesuit.

Mexico Olympics, Mexico, October 1968. Apollo spacecraft, The Challenge of Space Exhibit.

Singapore Sesquicentennial Celebration, Singapore, April 1-December 31, 1969. Spacesuit, Scale model of lunar module, Apollo display.

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