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BETHESDA, NATIONAL NAVAL MEDICAL CENTER, MD.

Physical fitness facilities are needed for the physical welfare and morale of active duty personnel assigned to the center and physical therapy for selected categories of hospital patients.

Status of funds

Cumulative appropriations through fiscal year 1976--
Cumulative obligations December 31, 1975.

Cumulative obligations June 30, 1976 (estimated).

$129, 347, 000 25,056, 773 104, 105, 643

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Mr. PATTEN. What has been your bid experience on the first two increments of the new hospital? Provide details for the record comparing the amount appropriated versus the amount of the bids received.

Admiral MARSCHALL. Quite good. In the first increment we have had remarkably good bidding, close to our estimates. The only project which went over was fire protection. We have not yet bid in the second increment. That is due for bid opening in May.

Mr. PATTEN. Provide details for the record comparing the amount appropriated versus the amount of the bids received. Admiral MARSCHALL. Yes, sir.

[The information follows:]

[Captain Myers]

A comparison of the appropriated amounts and the current working estimates are detailed below for the National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, Md., projects in the fiscal year 1975 program.

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Note: The current working estimate reflects bid prices and all known costs plus a minimal construction contingency. The Project P-051 current working estimate includes a future award for a portion of the central utility plant modernization to be awarded in May 1976.

Mr. PATTEN. Provide the outyear program here. [The information follows:]

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Mr. ALLEN. When the bids come in in May and when it will be appropriate, let us know what the bids are.

Admiral MARSCHALL. The appropriateness is whether a bid is qualified or not.

Mr. PATTEN. You requested $2,800,000 for physical fitness facilities at the Center. Was this project in your original program for the development of the Center?

Admiral MARSCHALL. It was part of the medical university program. Mr. PATTEN. It was?

Admiral MARSCHALL. It has been all the way, as I recall; yes, sir. Mr. PATTEN. Provide a square foot breakdown of space to be provided in the gymnasium.

[The information follows:]

[Captain Myers]

The square foot breakdown of the proposed physical fitness facilities at National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, Md., is as follows:

Gymnasium:

Gymnasium

Exercise/weight room

Locker rooms/showers/toilets

Trainers room

Handball courts (2).

Squash court (1)

Storage rooms

Laundry and issue room_

Office

Lobby

Circulation and mechanical space--

Subtotal

4 indoor playing courts_.

Special services support area.

Total

Mr. PATTEN. Did you switch it to this program?

Square feet

9, 386

2, 020

2, 617

467

1, 600

600

769

368

220

806

2,147

21, 000

4,800 5, 460

31,260

Admiral MARSCHALL. It is a joint use type facility which will eventually replace an existing facility. Inasmuch as it is a joint use type facility we did not think it made any difference as to whether it was designated for the hospital or the university.

Mr. PATTEN. How many outdoor tennis, handball, volleyball, badminton, and basketball courts are now on the reservation?

Admiral MARSCHALL. Sir, we have no basketball courts but we do have five tennis courts.

Mr. PATTEN. Clay, dirt, or grass?

Admiral MARSCHALL. A combination.

Mr. PATTEN. Are you finished answering that question?

How about handball?

Admiral KAUFMAN. No existing handball courts.

Mr. PATTEN. In Brooklyn every wall was used for handball.

Admiral KAUFMAN. The new gymnasium will have four combination handball and racketball courts.

Mr. PATTEN. What will be included in the special service support areas. Is there a swimming pool in there?

Admiral MARSCHALL. No, sir.

Admiral KAUFMAN. The medical center recreation program including the gymnasium will be managed from the special services offices. Sports equipment will also be issued from these offices.

Mr. PATTEN. To what manpower load was this project scoped?
Admiral MARSCHALL. 2,607.

Mr. PATTEN. There is a student body there?

Admiral MARSCHALL. Yes.

Mr. PATTEN. Your figures show about 2,000 military personnel assigned at Bethesda, with 44,352 gymnasium visits recorded during a year-long period.

Did the gymnasium visits include those using the swimming pool? Unless civilians are eligible to use the facility, your figures would indicate an average of about two visits per month per military person assigned here. Do you consider this an acceptable level of usage? Provide details for the record.

[The information follows:]

[Admiral Kaufman]

Yes. The gymnasium visits reported include swimming pool utilization. Civilians, meaning dependents of active duty, retired, and dependents of retired and deceased, are eligible to use the National Naval Medical Center gymnasium facilities. Additionally, Public Health Service officers and foreign military and their dependents use the recreational facilities at the medical center. Gymnasium visit statistics were not recorded by beneficiary category during fiscal year 1975. However, these statistics were maintained for the first and second quarters of fiscal year 1976.

NATIONAL NAVAL MEDICAL CENTER GYMNASIUM VISITS JULY THROUGH DECEMBER 1975

Beneficiary category and gymnasium visits

Active duty.

Dependents of active duty_.

Retired, dependents of retired and deceased__
Other beneficiaries

Total

1

1 Public Health Service and foreign military.

Mr. ALLEN. Will civilians be eligible?

15, 421

4, 158

5, 513

4, 089

29, 181

Admiral KAUFMAN. Yes, dependents of active duty, retired, and dependents of retired and deceased are eligible.

Mr. ALLEN. Are they eligible to use the facilities you propose?
Admiral KAUFMAN. Yes, sir.

Mr. PATTEN. What will be done with the existing building which includes space for a pool, bowling alley, and for four clubs? [The information follows:]

[Captain Myers]

The existing building will continue to house the club operations and swimming pool for the foreseeable future. The gymnasium area may be altered to reduce the deficiencies in club facilities, if determined to be feasible, or it may be demolished.

Admiral MARSCHALL. I don't think this is really the case when it comes to the use of Navy facilities. For example, these people are going to be working there and attending school. They will have hours off when they can use the gym. I can't anticipate the student will have his nose to the grindstone 8 hours a day. Even in the Pentagon, for

example, if you go down to the athletic center there are a whale of a lot of people there participating in some form of athletics. I think it will be highly utilized.

Mr. PATTEN. Any questions on this facility?

Hearing adjourned to 1 o'clock.

[Whereupon, at 12 noon, the subcommittee was adjourned to reconvene at 1 p.m.]

TUESDAY, MARCH 16, 1976.

TRIDENT

WITNESSES

HON. JACK L. BOWERS, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE NAVY FOR INSTALLATIONS AND LOGISTICS (ASN(I. & L.))

REAR ADM. A. R. MARSCHALL, CEC, U.S. NAVY, COMMANDER, NAVAL FACILITIES ENGINEERING COMMAND (NAVFACENGCOM)

BRIG. GEN. G. L. BARTLETT, U.S. MARINE CORPS, DIRECTOR, FACILITIES AND SERVICES DIVISION, HEADQUARTERS, U.S. MARINE CORPS

REAR ADM. J. C. METZEL, U.S. NAVY, TRIDENT PROJECT MANAGER CAPT. J. D. MURRAY, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, STRATEGIC SUBMARINE DIVISION, AND TRIDENT PROGRAM COORDINATOR, OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS (SUBMARINE WARFARE)

CAPT. E. R. STACEY, CEC, U.S. NAVY, OFFICER IN CHARGE OF CONSTRUCTION (OICC), TRIDENT

COMDR. V. PODBIELSKI, CEC, U.S. NAVY, OFFICE OF TRIDENT PROJECT MANAGER

COMDR. W. A. BAIR, CEC, U.S. NAVY, OFFICE OF THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE (INSTALLATIONS AND LOGISTICS)

Mr. PATTEN. We will take up the request for Trident facilities, phase IV. Insert page I-4 in the record.

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