Bill revisions are distributed to months in which they apply.

Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Mr. Northrop, will you continue now? Mr. NORTHROP. That completes the statement on the Division of Power. I will give a brief outline of the other increases in the office of the Secretary.

DIVISION OF INFORMATION

The Division of Information is requesting an increase of $8,840 to reestablish two photographic positions to which veterans have reemployment rights and to finance one-half of the salary of principal information specialist heretofore employed half-time by the Office of Fishery Coordination.

The two photographic positions consist of a Chief of the Photographic Section and a photographer. These positions were eliminated when the appropriation to the Division was curtailed in 1943. The veterans who previously occupied these positions are requesting reemployment.

The principal information specialist will be required on a full-time basis by the Division of Information to carry on informational activities connected with the Fish and Wildlife Service, the Geological Survey, and the Grazing Service.

Mr. ROONEY. Would you furnish the names of those two returning veterans in the Division of Information?

Mr. HOLLOWELL. One is Ray Dame, a former colonel in the Army. Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Ray Dame is well known by this committee. He is a good man, or was before he was made a colonel.

Mr. HOLLOWELL. The other is Mr. Sykes, a photographer, I do not have his first name. He is an Army photographer.

Mr. ROONEY. Did I not hear you say something about the Division of Information publicizing, among other things, the situation in the Grazing Service?

Mr. NORTHROP. That is a part-time service. The employee was paid part-time last year by the Office of Fishery Coordination.

Mr. ROONEY. You do not propose to tell the people of the country what the situation is with regard to the Grazing Service, do you?

Mr. NORTHROP. No. The work would deal with the program and its accomplishments. Would you care to answer that question, Mr. Hollowell?

Mr. HOLLOWELL. I think if it is worth paying for at all, the people are entitled to know what they are doing.

DIVISION OF BUDGET AND ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGEMENT

Mr. NORTHROP. The Division of Budget and Administrative Management will require $32,854 to finance the eight additional positions proposed to complete the minimum organization needed to discharge the budgetary, financial, and management responsibilities of the Division.

With the three additional positions provided by the 1946 appropriation act, the Congress has authorized the minimum budget staff recommended by the Department. On the other hand, only one administrative analyst and a clerk-stenographer are provided in our present budget to carry out the department-wide financial and management functions for which the Division is responsible.

Two finance examiners and a clerk-stenographer are needed to provide better departmental control over financial operations, and

four administrative analysts and two clerk-stenographers are needed for organization and methods work.

The finance examiners will study financial organization and practices and develop standards and requirements for financial ad

ministration.

The examiners would formulate budget and accounting classifications, appraise accounting practices, design accounting and other fiscal procedures, devise systems of cost accounting, advise concerning the application of machine methods to accounting and reporting operations, and prepare reports of findings and recommendations for improving financial administration.

The Division of Budget and Administrative Management receives many requests to examine the organization and the administrative practices of bureaus and to prepare recommendations for their improvement. These studies can produce substantial economies in administration through simplifying organization and offer great opportunity for streamlining operations. Most of these studies cannot be undertaken without the staff of administrative analysts proposed in this request.

For the past 6 months, virtually all of the time of the principal administrative analyst has been devoted to the study of organization and administrative practices in the Office of Indian Affairs. The Commissioner of Indian Affairs has stated that this study and recommendations made by the analyst have been of great value to him in formulating plans for the reorganization of the bureau. However, the concentration of our one administrative analyst on this undertaking has prevented the Division from carrying out many other assignments relating to organization and methods which have been requested during the past year.

We will be unable to carry out more than a small fraction of the responsibilities charged to the Division unless the staff proposed in the budget is authorized by the Congress.

PREPARATION OF BUDGET ESTIMATES

Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Mr. Northrop, you are responsible for the preparation of the budget estimates which are transmitted to the Bureau of the Budget, are you not?

Mr. NORTHROP. Yes, sir.

Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Do you personally examine into the estimates with a view to determining their desirability and value?

Mr. NORTHROP. The estimates, to the extent permitted by the limited staff in my Division, are examined for the purpose of recommending to the Secretary the action to be taken by the Department on the estimates.

Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Do you submit the findings and recommendations direct to the Secretary, or is there a budget committee which approves or disapproves of the requests for estimates?

Mr. NORTHROP. If I may answer that in a qualified way, we do it both ways, Mr. Chairman. The regular estimates are supposed to be reviewed by the budget review committee.

Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. You say "supposed to be." The committee would like to know if they are actually reviewed.