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Regular appropriation, 1938 act..

Allocation, 1938_..

Deduct nonrecurring items or other items not required in 1939:

(a) Reduced maintenance requirements Naval Mine Depot, New London, object 14 (p. 7)------(b) Commissioning allotments 25 new ships, object 15 (p. 7)..

(c) Ordnance research and development, object 16
(a) (p. 7).

(d) Water surface targets, object 16 (b) (p. 7).
(e) Conversion and modernization of torpedoes,
object 16 (c) (p. 7)-----

(f) Modernization of mines, object 16 (c) (p. 7).
(g) Fleet marine force equipment, object 34 (p. 7) -
(h) Special major caliber projectiles, object 34
(p. 7)

(i) Aviation ordnance for new airplanes, object 34
(p. 8)....
Replacement of defective mine parts, acces-
sories, etc.; torpedo and submarine nets,
object 34 (p. 8).......

(k) Material maintenance and improvement pro-
gram, object 34 (p. 8)...

$4,800

25,500

209, 100

26,500

274,500

61,000

234,000

2,000,000

3,017,000

279,890

$24,429,800 24,429,800

2,444,000

(1) Partial coverage of ammunition shortages, object 34 (p. 8)..

564,010

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A) Additional (or increased) recurring items for 1939:
(1) Increase in ship overhaul cost, object 12 (p. 9) -
(2) Increase in quarterly allotments for additional
ships in commission, object 15 (p. 10).
(3) Additional requirements for aerial targets,
object 16 (b) (p. 10).......

133,300

13,800

38,000

(4) Additional requirements for gun relining, object 16 (c) (p. 10).........

661,000

(5) Increased work load in connection with breakdown, overhaul and assembly of ammunition, object 16 (c) (p. 12).

54,300

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Increases requested for 1939-Continued

(B) Nonrecurring items required for 1939:
(15) Commissioning allotments for new ships, object
15 (p. 17)....

$33,000

(16) Research and development of ordnance ma-
terial, object 16 (a) (p. 18).

511,300

200,000

(17) Modification of torpedoes, object 16 (c) (p. 18).
(18) Modernization of mines, object 16 (c) (p. 19).
(19) Rehabilitation of torpedo station, Alexandria,
object 32 (p. 19)..

(20) Fleet Marine Force equipment, object 34 (p.
19)

(21) Bombs and bomb details for 1939 aircraft ex-
pansion program, object 34 (p. 19).

(22) Continuation of major caliber projectile pro-
gram, object 34 (p. 20)__

(23) Procurement of anti-aircraft spotting glasses,
object 34 (p. 20).

(24) Aviation ordnance equipment for new air

planes, object 34 (p. 20)

(25) Replacement of mine and depth charge equip-
ment, object 34 (p. 20)....

(26) Material, maintenance and improvement pro-
gram, object 34 (p. 21)..

(27) Toward partial filling of ordnance shortages,
object 34 (p. 24).

65,000

1,277,000

250,000

181,100

2,821,100

5,000

1,897,000

80,500

2,578,000

Subtotal of nonrecurring items....

567,300

$10,466.300

26,880.000

Estimate for 1939 appropriation.......

ADMINISTRATIVE RESERVE FUND

Mr. UMSTEAD. Admiral, it appears in the matter just inserted that the sum of $1,797,000 is being held out of the appropriation made to the Bureau of Ordnance for the present fiscal year in the so-called administrative reserve. Has any of that amount been released?

Admiral FURLONG. A request has been made for the release of all of the items of that administrative reserve except $685,360.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Your statement is that requests have been made to release all of the amount administratively reserved except $685360! Admiral FURLONG. Yes, sir.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Has that request been acted upon?

Admiral FURLONG. Not yet, sir.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Then you are not prepared today to say whether or not it will be released?

Admiral FURLONG. No; but I have every expectation that it will be released, because that amout that I asked for was for materials that we could purchase now in order to stimulate industry.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Do you expect the balance, somewhat in excess of $600,000, to be released prior to the end of the current fiscal year! Admiral FURLONG. I am expecting the balance to be released except an amount that I will not ask to be released, which is $76,360. Mr. UMSTEAD. And for what was that amount appropriated? Admiral FURLONG. That was appropriated for targets and targetpractice projectiles, for which I have asked funds in 1939.

Mr.UMSTEAD. Is that the only amount you are requesting for 1969 by reason of the setting up of the administrative reserve? Admiral FURLONG. Yes, sir.

INCREASES REQUESTED FOR 1939

Mr. UMSTEAD. Admiral, will you give us a statement of the increases requested for 1939?

Admiral FURLONG. Yes, sir.

INCREASE IN COST OF SHIP OVERHAUL

1. One hundred and thirty-three thousand three hundred dollars increase in cost of ship overhaul, the total of which is $1,100,000. Most of this work at navy yards during regular overhaul: some expenditures are for material used in effecting repairs away from yard. Covers routine overhaul and repair of guns, mounts, torpedo tubes, fire control, turrent gear, hoists, and so forth, also installation of relined guns and other replacement material. The amount requested is based on the number of units undergoing navy-yard overhaul times the unit cost of each, plus the regunning program, plus some material.

NOTE--No actual costs of complete overhaul are available for the new 1,500and 1,800-ton destroyers, and the unit costs of overhaul used below are estimated.

The main increase over 1938 is due to the fact that there are 28 more destroyers to be overhauled.

QUARTERLY ALLOTMENTS FOR ADDITIONAL NEW SHIPS IN COMMISSION

2. Thirteen thousand dollars increase in quarterly allotments for additional new ships in commission computed as follows: Quarterly allotments times number of ships in commission in 1939_Quarterly allotments times number of ships in commission in 1938_.

Additional required for 1939

$164, 000 151, 000

13,000

AERIAL TARGETS

3. Thirty-eight thousand dollars additional required for aerial targets. Break-down of target requirements follows:

Five hundred and thirteen thousand five hundred dollars total for targets and target gear for fleet practices afloat and in the air divided by types as follows:

$323,500 for water surface targets: Due to less attrition in targets than was
expected, current requirements are less than for 1938 by $26,500.
ments listed below:

2 battle type, 172-foot targets at $18,000 each_
1 sled type target, 60 feet, at $10,000___-

5 sled type targets, 40 feet, at $4,000 each.

Require

$36, 000

10,000

20,000

10,000

5 sled type targets, 30 feet, at $2,000 each....

5 sled type targets, 25 feet, at $1,500 each.
Overhaul and repair of targets.
Target material

Total___.

7,500 120,000 120, 000

323,500

$190,000 for aerial targets. This represents an increase of $38,000 over the 1938 appropriation and is due in part to higher cost of labor and materials and to the fact that additional new cruisers and destroyers with antiaircraft batteries are joining the fleet. Requirements are listed below:

15,000 aerial targets at $7_each__
3,000 antiaircraft targets at $14 each.......
800 000-foot towline at $24 per 1,000..
35,000 reels gun camera film at $0.45_-
1,000 release assemblies at $8-

Total.

$105,000

42,000

19,000

16,000

8,000

190,000

Mr. UMSTEAD. Admiral, for the current fiscal year an increase of about $100,000 was allowed in the appropriation for targets. Now, is the $76.000 referred to a few minutes ago as in the administrative reserve which you do not expect to have released, a part of the increase which the committee allowed?

Admiral FURLONG. It is a part of the $100,000 increase which the committee allowed in 1937 and 1938 over 1936. The increase asked for in 1939 is $11,500 over 1937 and 1938.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Then, if that should be released during the current fiscal year, you would decrease your requests for next year by that amount?

Admiral FURLONG. Yes, sir.

GUN RELINING

Mr. UMSTEAD. Proceed with your statement, Admiral.

Admiral FURLONG. 4. $661,000 increase in cost of gun relining. The total for 1939 is $1,002.800 and covers the annual program for preparation of regunning bateries, relining of worn guns, and purchase of forgings necessary for relining.

It varies from year to year, depending upon the calibers and numbers of guns becoming due for relining. The increase of $661,000 over 1938 is due largely to the fact that the 1939 estimates carry $593,500 for relining 14-inch guns and for purchase of forgings, as against $164.000 for these items in 1938. The 1939 estimate also carries $355,000 for relining 3-inch, 4-inch, and 5-inch guns, whereas 1938 carried only $3.000 for this. The 1938 relining program was $457,500 less than in 1937.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Is this increase that you are requesting for gun relining caused by increased target practice?

Admiral FURLONG. No, sir. This particular item is caused by the time at which the guns come around for relining, which, in turn, depends upon the time that the ship was built originally or last regunned. In other words, they are allowed to go so many rounds before they are relined. They can fire that many rounds before they are relined.

It so happens that this year there are four times as many guns to be relined as last year. In 1937 there were a great many more relines than in 1938. That is just due to the fact that they come around and have to be relined at a certain time. They get worn out. It is not that they fire any more rounds at target practice, but if a ship is built in a certain year, the gun gets worn out a certain number of years later, according to the number of rounds fired.

Mr. UMSTEAD. If the guns are relined on the basis of the number of rounds fired, then, after all, the period of relining is determined

by the extent to which the gun has been used and not its age; is not that correct?

Admiral FURLONG. Both. Of course, the extent to which it has been used depends on how many years it has been fired.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Not necessarily. It depends on how many times it has been fired, too, does it not?

Admiral FURLONG. That is right.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Any increase in target practice is reflected in an increase in the need of relining guns?

Admiral FURLONG. That is correct, sir.

BREAK-DOWN, OVERHAUL, AND ASSEMBLY OF AMMUNITION

Admiral FURLONG. Five: $54,300 increase in work load in breakdown, overhaul, and assembly of ammunition. The total required is 715,500 and covers routine work, break-down, overhaul, and assembly of ammunition for fleet target-practice needs and for Dahlgren. The principal charge under this object is the preparation of targetpractice ammunition. The replacement of 1,200-ton destroyers mounting four 4-inch guns with 1,500 and 1,850-ton destroyers mounting four to eight 5-inch 38 guns each firing more rounds per gunbroadside and A. A.-in the course of the gunnery year, together with the increase in number of cruisers and carriers, has very materially increased the work load of preparation.

There is the element that you mentioned, Mr. Chairman; that is, they fire more rounds out of the same gun. Here, in these new destroyers more rounds are fired out of the same gun, because the same gun does surface work and antiaircraft work. It is a 5-inch 38 double-purpose gun and fires two kinds of targets or fires targets in two kinds of practices.

The increase under this heading is made up as follows:

Preparation of target ammunition for three additional light cruisers, at $2,139 each, $6.417.

Preparation of target ammunition for 15 additional 1,500-ton destroyers, at $705 each, $10,575.

This item covers the cost of overhaul of service ammunition which is increasing each year on account of new construction. Ammunition containers in particular are requiring greater expenditures for repairs, $37,308.

Making a total of $54,300.

Mr. PLUMLEY. What do you mean by "overhaul of service ammunition?"

Admiral FURLONG. The service ammunition is the ammunition that is put in the ship for battle, as distinguished from target-practice ammunition. After it has been in the ship for, say, 3 or 4 years, it is taken out and looked over and sent to the ammunition depot, and that which is required to be cleaned up is cleaned up and put back in the magazines.

Then, too, after a number of years, powder is taken from the ships and sent back to the ammunition depot, and it is looked at and it has to be reassembled and put in new bags or, perhaps, discarded, if it is of no use.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Admiral, the new ships, in any appreciable number, have been in commission but a few months?

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