INCREASE COMPARED WITH BASE mcrease in number, 989, at plus $1,157.15 equals Decrease in rate, 6,443, at plus $22.42 equals Total $1, 144, 421 144, 471 999, 950 The average for 1937 was $1,170.20. The trend in average cost is downward. The estimate is, therefore, calculated on an average of $1,157.15. The pay of the retired enlisted men is based upon the numbers stimated to be on the retired list in the different pay grades during he fiscal year 1939, using the rates of pay for each grade in the lasses-30-year men and Fleet Naval Reservists transferred to the etired list after 30 years' total service in the Navy and Fleet Naval Reserve and for physical disability. There are 593 men who have been or will be retired for physical lisability with less than 30 years' service. These men will not receive he additional allowance of $15.75 per month in lieu of clothing, quarters, and so forth, until after the completion of a total of 30 ears in the Navy on the active, reserve, and retired list. Mr. UMSTEAD. I believe that an enlisted man in the Navy has the privilege of retiring after 30 years' service. Admiral CONARD. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. I also understand that an enlisted man in the Navy after 20 years' service has the right to go into the Naval Reserve if he does not elect to reenlist in the Regular Navy. Admiral CoNARD. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. And after serving 10 years in the Naval Reserve, he then goes on the retired list just as a man who served 30 years in the regular naval service. Admiral CONARD. That is my understanding of the law. Mr. UMSTEAD. Of course, that is a matter of statute. Admiral CONARD. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. Under existing law. Admiral CONARD. Yes, sir; that is correct. Captain WILKINSON. While he would be entitled to pay and allowances, there is a difference in pay between the 30-year man and the -year man who leaves the regular service and goes into the Reserve. Mr. UMSTEAD. There is a difference? Captain WILKINSON. During the time he is in the Naval Reserve, he gets the regular pay of a reservist. After 30 years' active service the Navy, a man receives 75 percent of the total pay he was receiving at the time of retirement, plus a monthly allowance of $15.75. If he goes in the Naval Reserve after 20 years' service, and then goes on the retired list, he gets an allowance of $15.75 per month, but there is no increase of pay during the 10 years he is in the Naval Reserve. Mг. THOм. After he comes out of the Naval Reserve, he gets the same retirement pay that the man who stayed in the Navy for 30 years receives. Captain WILKINSON. No, sir. Captain ABBETT. A 20-year reservist gets one-half his base pay, plus his "permanent additions," which amounts to about $104 for a chief petty officer. This amount is increased by $15.75 after completion of 30 years service in the Navy and Naval Reserve combined. A man who does 30 years active service, is retired with 75 percent of his pay plus $15.75, a total of about $134.00 for a chief petty officer. Mr. THOм. When he goes from the Navy into the Naval Reserve, his base pay does not continue, does it? Captain ABBETT. His retainer pay in the Reserve commences. His rate of pay is fixed as it was at the time he entered the Reserve. Mr. THOм. That is not clear to me. Captain ABBETT. This is the Fleet Naval Reserve, and 20 years service is required for that. Mr. THOм. I am not clear on that yet. Here is a man who has been in the Navy for 20 years, and he elects to retire and join the Naval Reserve. Captain ABBETT. He elects to transfer to the Naval ReserveMr. THOм (interposing). He has been receiving pay as an enlisted man in the Navy. Captain ABBETT. Yes, sir. Mr. THOм. What happens to this man who has been a part of the Navy? Captain ABBETT. His pay is used as a base for calculating his pay in the Naval Reserve. Mг. THOм. How much pay does he receive in the Naval Reserve? Captain ABBETT. He receives one-half of his base pay, plus his permanent allowance, amounting to about 60 percent of what he received in the Navy. Mг. THOм. He receives that during the 10 years in the Naval Reserve? Captain ABBETT. Yes, sir. Mr. THOM. Then, after 10 years in the Naval Reserve, what happens? Captain ABRETT. He is placed on the retired list, and receives an allowance of $15.75 per month in addition to his retainer pay in the Naval Reserve. That is, at the end of 30 years, he receives an increase in pay and allowances of $15.75. Mr. THOм. How does he stand in comparison with the man who remains in the Navy for 30 years? Captain ABBETT. The man who transfers to the Naval Reserve receives in the aggregate about 60 percent of his base pay and allowances, while the man who remains in the service for 30 years receives 75 percent. Mr. THOM. Of all his pay? Captain ABBETT. Yes, sir. Admiral CONARD. The pay and allowances of retired enlisted men in the Navy or in the Naval Reserve are as follows: After 30 years' active service in the Navy, 75 percent of base pay and permanent allowances that they were receiving at the time of retirement, plus a monthly allowance of $15.75. After 20 years' active service in the Navy and additional time i the Reserve, one-half of base pay, plus longevity increase (25 percent of base pay) plus 10 percent for extraordinary heroism, or an average mark in conduct for 20 years' service of not less than 97 percent, plus allowances of $15.75 per month. After 16 years' active service in the Navy and additional time in he Reserve, one-third of the base pay, plus longevity increase (25 ercent of base pay), plus allowances of $15.75 per month. Those retired, short of 30 years' service, for physical disability eceive the retainer pay of 20-year and 16-year men, until the active ervice and retired service equal to a total of 30 years when the allownce of $15.75 per month is also received. BASE PAY OF ENLISTED MEN, INCLUDING LONGEVITY Mr. UMSTEAD. The next subhead covers the base pay of enlisted nen in the active service, plus longevity. Admiral CONARD. The details of the estimate are as follows: The estimated number of men in the several grades furnished by the Bureau of Navigation is as follows: The rates used are those shown by the card count of Mar. 31, 1937. Distribution in pay grades is the tae percentage as for 1938. INCREASE IN PAY OF ENLISTED MEN Mr. UMSTEAD. You are requesting an increase in the item of pay of enlisted men of $3,976,773. Admiral CONARD. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. You expect to have at the close of the fiscal year 1938 105,000 enlisted men, do you not? Admiral CONARD. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. And you are asking an appropriation to pay 5,570 additional enlisted men. Captain ABBETT. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. For 5,570 additional enlisted men in the fiscal year 1939? Captain ABBETT. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. The money increase requested here is based upon the statutory allowances for the additional number of enlisted men requested for 1939. Admiral CONARD. That is correct. Mr. UMSTEAD. Whatever number may be granted in this bill will require a proportionate part of that increase. Admiral CONARD. That is correct. We have set up the estimates in such a way as to show the additional cost for the additional number of men. Mr. UMSTEAD. I believe that your grade distribution is approximately the same, in proportion, as the grade distribution shown for the fiscal year 1938. Admiral CONARD. It is the same. COST OF 1,000 ADDITIONAL ENLISTED MEN Mr. UMSTEAD. In that connection, please prepare and insert in the record a statement showing what the added cost would be under this or any other subhead of this appropriation or any other appropriation that would be affected, if you were allowed an increase of 1,000 men for the fiscal year 1939, over and above the 105,000 men you expect to have at the close of the present fiscal year. Admiral CONARD. In lieu of the estimate we have here? Mr. UMSTEAD. Yes. Admiral CONARD. We will submit that. (The statement requested is as follows:) Answering the specific question: At the end of the fiscal year 1938 there wil! be, as appropriated for, 105,000 men. The maintenance of this number will in itself require a larger appropriation than in 1938, for the latter was based upon an average of 102,500, starting with 100,000 and ending with 105,000. Teffect an average increase of 1,000 in 1939, a final number of 107,000 will be necessary, producing an average of 106,000. The added cost of this average number of men, over the 1938 funds appropriated, is compounded then from the following: (a) Cost of general necessary increases not related to the number of met: (b) Cost of the 2.500 men on the average provided by the 105,000 men at the end of the year 1938. (e) Cost of the 1,000 men in addition to the 105,000 on the rolls at the end of the year 1938. The total cost of these is $6,875,671. It is presumed, however, that in addition to the specific question, the com mittee desires information as to the reductions in the estimates which would result from a cut of 1,000 men below the 107,785 average requested. Such information is as follows: For each 1,000 men reduced from the average of 107,785 the estimate may be reduced as follows: Pay, subsistence, and transportation, $1,350.000. This amount is distributed to projects as follows: 1 The limitation (107.785) on expenditures for gunnery and engineering prizes may reduced $1 for each man by which the average is reduced. A reduction at this rate has been included in the estimate for subhead 7 above. daintenance, Bureau of Supplies and Accounts__. Construction and Repair: Object 16, item 5, "Outfits for new recruits" $11, 200 434 6,000 1, 367, 634 Trust accounts: Naval hospital fund, item 1, "Increased hospitalization" Total annual appropriation___. ADDITIONAL PAY OF ENLISTED PERSONNEL FOR AVIATION DUTY 3,547 Mr. UMSTEAD. The next subhead covers additional pay for aviation duty. Admiral CONARD. The item of additional pay for enlisted men on active Aviation Duty covers the additional pay of 50 percent for that duty. The details of the estimate are as follows: Mr. UMSTEAD. I notice you are requesting here an increase of about $34.430. Admiral CONARD. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. Which is caused by an increase in the number of enlisted men you expect to have on flying duty of 836. Admiral CONARD. That is correct. Mr. UMSTEAD. And, also, by changes in grades and rates of pay of the men you expect to have on flying duty during 1939. Admiral CONARD. Yes, sir. Mr. UMSTEAD. About how many enlisted men are required for each additional plane that goes into the service? |