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nection with the disposal of surplus and condemned naval supplies are charged to the funds realized from such sales.

At the larger navy yards it is necessary to maintain a small force of clerks, stockmen, and laborers, who are engaged exclusively upon the work of collecting, scheduling, invoicing, sorting, and arranging materials for sale and delivery to purchasers.

The amounts now obligated against the naval working fund as expenses of sales on account of regular and permanent employees and the amount expended for 1937 are as follows:

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The distribution of these expenses by stations is as follows:

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Mr. UMSTEAD. Admiral, I believe the naval working fund carries no item of direct appropriation to that fund in this bill. Admiral CONARD. No; this is a self-balancing fund.

Mr. UMSTEAD. It is a bookkeeping matter within the Department, dealing with appropriations appearing under other items and classifications?

Admiral CONARD. Exactly so.

INDUSTRIAL RECOVERY ACCOUNT

Mr. UMSTEAD. The next item is the "Industrial recovery account." Admiral CONARD. The statement of the industrial recovery account is as follows:

Industrial recovery account (July 1, 1936, to Sept. 30, 1936)

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The industrial recovery account was established to handle materials required in connection with projects under National Industrial Recovery appropriations. The project having terminated, the account was balanced and closed September 30, 1936.

Mr. UMSTEAD. Admiral, I believe that this account involves no item of appropriation, but is merely a bookkeeping account dealing with moneys heretofore allotted to the Navy Department out of emergency funds.

Admiral CONARD. That is precisely correct.

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 11, 1937.

PAY, SUBSISTENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION, NAVY

Mr. UMSTEAD. Admiral, we will now take up the appropriation. "Pay, subsistence, and transportation, Navy."

Admiral CONARD. This appropriation covers the pay, subsistence, and transportation of naval personnel, including both active and retired officers, midshipmen, nurses, and enlisted men. For purposes of administration it is divided into three general heads, viz: (1) Pay, (2) subsistence, (3) transportation. Each of these heads is further divided into subheads, or projects, but they are all closely related. For example, when a man is placed on the rolls, he must not only be paid, but also subsisted and transported to his place of duty. The estimate is, therefore, prepared to cover the cost of the numbers of personnel of the various ranks and grades. There follows a table which shows the average numbers of the various classes of personnel in prior years, and the estimated requirements for 1939.

DISPOSITION AND CLASSES OF PERSONNEL

Mr. UMSTEAD. That table and the one following may appear the record at this point.

(Said tables are as follows:)

Comparison of personnel for fiscal years 1939, 1938, 1937, and 1936

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Comparison of estimate for 1939 with number of officers of Line and Staff Corps

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*Subject to change dependent upon actual number of Navy and Marine Corps personnel.

Admiral CONARD. The appropriation for 1938 and the estimate for 1939 are based on full rates of pay and the restoration of all proniotions and increases for longevity.

DISTRIBUTION OF ESTIMATES FOR PAY, SUBSISTENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION OF THE NAVY

The estimate under the subhead "Pay," amounting to $177,102,472, covers the pay and allowances of officers, nurses and men on active duty; the pay of officers, nurses and men who have been retired, and the pay of men transferred to the Naval Reserve after 16 or 20 years' service, as well as a number of smaller items.

Mr. UMSTEAD. The tables covering pay, subsistence, and transportation may be inserted at this point.

(Said tables are as follows:)

Comparison of projects, Navy expenditures only

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