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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

GEORGE H. MAHON, Texas, Chairman
JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi

FRANK T. BOW, Ohio
GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Alabama

CHARLES R. JONAS, North Carolina
JOHN J. ROONEY, New York

ELFORD A. CEDERBERG, Michigan
ROBERT L. F. SIKES, Florida

JOHN J. RHODES, Arizona
OTTO E. PASSMAN, Louisiana

WILLIAM E. MINSHALL, Ohio
JOE L. EVINS, Tennessee

ROBERT H. MICHEL, Illinois
EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts
WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

GLENN R. DAVIS, Wisconsin
DANIEL J. FLOOD, Pennsylvania

HOWARD W. ROBISON, New York
TOM STEED, Oklahoma

GARNER E. SHRIVER, Kansas
GEORGE E. SHIPLEY, Illinois

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JOHN M. SLACK, West Virginia

MARK ANDREWS, North Dakota
JOHN J. FLYNT, JR., Georgia

LOUIS C. WYMAN, New Hampshire
NEAL SMITH, Iowa

BURT L. TALCOTT, California
ROBERT N. GIAIMO, Connecticut

CHARLOTTE T. REID, Illinois
JULIA BUTLER HANSEN, Washington DONALD W. RIEGLE, JR., Michigan
JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York

WENDELL WYATT, Oregon
JOHN J. McFALL, California

JACK EDWARDS, Alabama
W. R. HULL, JR., Missouri

DEL CLAWSON, California
EDWARD J. PATTEN, New Jersey

WILLIAM J. SCHERLE, Iowa
CLARENCE D. LONG, Maryland

ROBERT C. MCEWEN, New York
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana
BOB CASEY, Texas
DAVID PRYOR, Arkansas
FRANK E. EVANS, Colorado
DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California
WILLIAM D. HATHAWAY, Maine
NICK GALIFIANAKIS, North Carolina
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
J. EDWARD ROUSH, Indiana
K. GUNN MCKAY, Utah

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THE BUDGET FOR 1972

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 1971.

WITNESSES

DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

HON. JOHN B. CONNALLY, SECRETARY
MURRAY L. WEIDENBAUM, ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR ECONOMIC

POLICY
ERNEST C. BETTS, JR., ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR ADMINIS-

TRATION
THOMAS F. LEAHEY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF TAX

ANALYSIS
EDWARD P. SNYDER, DIRECTOR OF DEBT ANALYSIS
THOMAS W. WOLFE, ACTING ASSISTANT TO THE SECRETARY

OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET

GEORGE P. SHULTZ, DIRECTOR
CASPAR W. WEINBERGER,, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
JAMES R. SCHLESINGER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
RICHARD P. NATHAN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
DONOLD B. RICE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
SAMUEL M. COHN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR BUDGET REVIEW
ARTHUR B. LAFFER, ECONOMIST

COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISERS

PAUL W. McCRACKEN, CHAIRMAN

OPENING REMARKS OF THE CHAIRMAN Mr. MAHON. Will the committee come to order? The Committee on Appropriations has for a long time wanted to conduct some open hearings. We have finally concluded that we have enough support from the press to undertake such a hearing. The committee has been in existence for 105 years and we felt a little experimentation at this time would not be out of order.

Thirteen years ago we had our first overall hearing on the budget before the Committee on Appropriations. We have had 10 such hearings since that time. One of the factors deterring us from holding open hearings in the past has been the small size of our committee rooms. This year, the Government Operations Committee graciously let us borrow this excellent large hearing room.

Without objection, I would like to say to the committee that we will more or less have to discard the 5-minute rule because with 55 members of the committee, it would be rather impractical to manage. I would say, however, that we expect to adjourn this hearing around 4 o'clock and resume tomorrow about 10 o'clock.

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