months in his commencing grade right down here. Then he is going to E-2 Mr. BLANDFORD. E-1. Captain MARTINEAU. Yes, E-1. He is spending a total of 4 months in those grades. Then he goes to E-2 where he spends on an average of 6 months under present conditions. He is spending on an average of 10 months in the E-3 grade. Mr. BLANDFORD. Wait a minute. Under that you are saying that a man spends a combined total of 4 months in E-2 before he goes to E-2, of only 4 months? Captain MARTINEAU. That is right. Mr. BLANDFORD. That would mean that he would be promoted to E-2 after 1 month as an E-1 or after 1 day as an E-1? Colonel BRINCKMANN. I think if I can use the term. When we talk about the E-1, let us think of him as the recruit. At the end of 4 months he moves up to the E-2 which is then the private in the Army. Captain MARTINEAU. Oh Mr. BLANDFORD. I don't agree with that at all, Colonel. You used to do that, but if I am not mistaken you do not promote anybody today in the Army until they complete basic training of 16 weeks. Colonel BRINCKMANN. That is right. I am talking of the pay. Mr. BLANDFORD. I am, too. A man completes 16 weeks of basic training, that is 4 months, right. Colonel BRINCKMANN. That is right. Mr. BLANDFORD. He is drawing $78 a month. What you have just told us that he goes from $78 a month to $85 a month and skips the $83 a month situation entirely. Colonel BRINCKMANN. He goes from $83.20. Mr. BLANDFORD. How long does he draw $83.20? Colonel BRINCKMANN. That is the first grade of the E-1. Mr. BLANDFORD. That is right. How long does he stay there. Mr. BLANDFORD. Now, it is completely confused. Colonel BRINCKMANN. Six months after the four. Mr. BLANDFORD. That is what I have been trying to say. Then he moves up to E-2. Colonel BRINCKMANN. That is correct. After 10 months of service. Mr. BLANDFORD. Fine. Now, we are getting someplace. That is exactly my point. He doesn't just jump from E-2-into E-2, he doesn't go from recruit to E-2. But the way the record will show is that after 4 months he is drawing E-2's pay, you mean E-1 pay. Colonel BRINCKMANN. E-1 pay. Mr. BLANDFORD. That is better. Mr. KILDAY. He goes from recruit to private and then private, first class, and then corporal. Mr. BLANDFORD. That is right. Mr. KILDAY. Anything further on the enlisted pay table? (No response.) Mr. KILDAY. We will move on, then, Captain. Captain MARTINEAU. There is a mistake in the table, Mr. Chairman. This committee print scale here should be $98.80, instead of $91. Mr. BLANDFORD. That is right. We had better make that correction now. Mr. KILDAY. That is a very important matter, too, because that is the end of his obligated service, and he goes up. Captain MARTINEAU. Before we leave, I would like to-I never did answer your question, Mr. Hardy, as to how long it takes a man to get up into here. Mr. HARDY. I don't think it matters, particularly. Captain MARTINEAU. He gets there on the average right now at the end of a year and a half, 18 months. Mr. HARDY. That is the average? Captain MARTINEAU. Yes, sir. Mr. HARDY. But the poor fellows that are not quite able to make that stay over here as E-1, and draw more pay, which is all right. I think I understand. Mr. GAVIN. These tables have been very carefully checked so that they are correct now, when they go into the bill? Captain MARTINEAU. We have two mistakes on this committee print. Mr. GAVIN. Recheck it again, you might find another one. Captain MARTINEAU. Have you seen enough of the basic pay scales, Mr. Chairman? All right, let us go to the next one. Colonel Corbin will explain the incentive pay for hazardous duty. Mr. KILDAY. Go right ahead. Colonel CORBIN. This is is the chart you have already seen [indicating] which shows the proposed new hazardous duty pay. This, of course, is the present pay that is paid for hazardous duty as you remember, it is the same for each grade [indicating]. Mr. SHORT. What all is included in that? Colonel CORBIN. That is just the incentive pay for the performance of hazardous duty for submarine and flying pay. Mr. SHORT. Submarine and flying? Colonel CORBIN. Yes, sir, first two categories. Now, this is the direct multiplication of those percentages to the new scale of basic pay, and it shows the dollar differences that have come out. You will notice that there has been a $5 increase in what amounts to flying pay in the case of a major general. There is one area you will notice it just changed approximately the same as the new proposed table all along. There is no point where more than $5 differential by introduction of this new basic pay table has happened on this chart. Next chart, please. This shows the percentage increases which, of course, have remained the same as your original chart [indicating]. The only significant change of course is raising this pay to $165 [indicating] instead of $160 as it was originally. Comparison between present and committee-proposed incentive pay for hazardous duty 50.00 $145.00 $145.00 $155.00 $165.00 $180.00 $185.00 $190.00 $200.00 $205.00 $205.00 $205.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $120.00 $25.00 $25.00 $35.00 $45.00 $60.00 $65.00 $70.00 $80.00 $85.00 $85.00 20.83 20.83 29.17 37.50 $85.00 $85.00 $85.00 $85.00 54.17 58.33 66.67 70.83 70.83 70.83 70.83 70.83 70.83 $105.00 $135.00 $135.00 $140.00 $145.00 $100.00 $100.00 $5.00 5.00 $155.00 $160.00 $170.00 $170.00 $170.00 $170.00 $100.00 $100.00 $100.00 $100.00 $100.00 $100.00 $100.00 $100.00 $40.00 $45.00 $55.00 $60.00 $70.00 $70.00 $70.00 40.00 45.00 55.00 60.00 70.00 70.00 70.00 $70.00 $70.00 70.00 $70.00 70.00 70.00 |