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REORGANIZATION PLAN NO. 2 OF 1977 (Agency for International Communication)

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON

GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FIFTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

OCTOBER 18 AND 21, 1977

Printed for the use of the Committee on Government Operations

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COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS

JACK BROOKS, Texas, Chairman

L. H. FOUNTAIN, North Carolina
JOHN E. MOSS, California
DANTE B. FASCELL, Florida
WILLIAM S. MOORHEAD, Pennsylvania
BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL, New York
FERNAND J. ST GERMAIN, Rhode Island
DON FUQUA, Florida

JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan

LEO J. RYAN, California
CARDISS COLLINS, Illinois
JOHN L. BURTON, California

RICHARDSON PREYER, North Carolina
MICHAEL HARRINGTON, Massachusetts
ROBERT F. DRINAN, Massachusetts
BARBARA JORDAN, Texas
GLENN ENGLISH, Oklahoma

ELLIOTT H. LEVITAS, Georgia

DAVID W. EVANS, Indiana

ANTHONY MOFFETT, Connecticut

ANDREW MAGUIRE, New Jersey
LES ASPIN, Wisconsin

HENRY A. WAXMAN, California

JACK HIGHTOWER, Texas

JOHN W. JENRETTE, JR., South Carolina FLOYD J. FITHIAN, Indiana

MICHAEL T. BLOUIN, Iowa

PETER H. KOSTMAYER, Pennsylvania
TED WEISS, New York

FRANK HORTON, New York
JOHN N. ERLENBORN, Illinois
JOHN W. WYDLER, New York
CLARENCE J. BROWN, Ohio

PAUL N. MCCLOSKEY, JR., California
GARRY BROWN, Michigan

CHARLES THONE, Nebraska

ROBERT W. KASTEN, JR., Wisconsin
THOMAS N. KINDNESS, Ohio
TOM CORCORAN, Illinois
DAN QUAYLE, Indiana

ROBERT S. WALKER, Pennsylvania
ARLAN STANGELAND, Minnesota
JOHN E. (JACK) CUNNINGHAM,
Washington

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CONTENTS

Hearing held on-
October 18.
October 21.

Statement of—

Blaylock, Kenneth T., national president, American Federation of Government Employees, as presented by Stephen Koczak, special projects assistant to AFGE; accompanied by Bruce Gregory, president of AFGE Local 1812.

ray, Charles W., III, Acting Director, U.S. Information Agency; accompanied by Stanley Silverman, Assistant Director for Budget and Finance; and Normand Poirier, Deputy General Counsel __ __ Brooks, Hon. Jack, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas, and chairman, Legislation and National Security Subcommittee: Opening statement...

Hydle, Lars H., president, American Foreign Service Association; accompanied by Frank Cummins, secretary; and Janet E. Ruben, USIA constituency representative and standing committee chairperson

Read, Ben H., Deputy Under Secretary for Management, Depart-
ment of State; accompanied by William K. Hitchcock, Acting
Assistant Secretary for Educational and Cultural Affairs.
Wellford, W. Harrison, Executive Associate Director for Reorgani-
zation and Management, Office of Management and Budget;
accompanied by Peter L. Szanton, Associate Director for Organi-
zation and Studies; and Eric L. Hirschhorn, Acting Deputy Asso-
ciate Director for Organization, President's Reorganization Project-
Letters, statements, et cetera, submitted for the record by-

Bray, Charles W., III, Acting Director, U.S. Information Agency:
Prepared statement -

Fascell, Hon. Dante B., a Representative in Congress from the State
of Florida: Material forwarded to the President concerning public
diplomacy resources.

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Koczak, Stephen, special projects assistant to American Federation
of Government Employees: Material and correspondence relative
to the hearings---
110-129, 131-138

Read, Ben H., Deputy Under Secretary for Management, Department
of State: Prepared statement...
Wellford, W. Harrison, Executive Associate Director for Reorgani-
zation and Management, Office of Management and Budget:
December 21, 1977, letter to Representative John Moss re infor-
mation submitted to Chairman Brooks on October 27, 1977---.
Prepared statement____

APPENDIX

Additional material and correspondence submitted for the hearings...... –

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REORGANIZATION PLAN NO. 2 OF 1977
(Agency for International Communication)

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 1977

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

LEGISLATION AND NATIONAL SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE
OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS,
Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:08 a.m., in room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Jack Brooks (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Representatives Jack Brooks, John E. Moss, Don Fuqua, Dante B. Fascell, Frank Horton, and John N. Erlenborn. Also present: Representative Elliott H. Levitas.

Staff present: Elmer W. Henderson, staff director; William M. Jones, general counsel, William H. Copenhaver, associate counsel; Joy S. Chambers, professional staff member; Craig J. Gehring, professional staff member; Guadalupe R. Flores, professional staff member; Susan E. Phillips, secretary; Richard L. Thompson, minority staff director; J. P. Carlson, minority counsel; and James L. George, minority professional staff, Committee on Government Operations.

OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN BROOKS

Mr. BROOKS. The subcommittee will come to order.

This hearing has been called to consider President Carter's Reorganization Plan No. 2 of 1977, which he submitted to Congress on October 11. As you know, unless a resolution of disapproval is passed by either the House or the Senate, the plan will go into effect in 60 days, barring recesses of more than 3 days.

I have introduced House Resolution 827 as required by the Reorganization Act. The plan will create a new agency in the executive branch to be known as the Agency for International Communication. There will be transferred into it the U.S. Information Agency and its authorities, and the educational and cultural affairs functions now carried out by the State Department, among other transfers. Approximately 8,500 employees and a budget of $350 million are involved. The plan also establishes a U.S. Advisory Commission on International Communication, Cultural and Educational Affairs, which combines the functions of the existing Advisory Commission on Educational Cultural Affairs and the Advisory Commission on Information.

The new Agency will carry out international communications programs, including the Voice of America, now being handled by the USIA and the international educational and cultural exchange activi

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