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relationship which has and will continue to exist between me and the ranking minority member, Mr. Arends. I am deeply grateful for his cooperation and the cooperation of the minority. At this time I would like to recognize Mr. Arends.
Mr. ARENDS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I wholeheartedly concur in what was said by the chairman in respect to this great committee and our individual responsibilities in performance of the work and heavy tasks that we have before us.
I, too, want to extend a welcome to each and every new member of this committee and, as they used to say in the Navy, “Gentlemen, we are glad to have you aboard.”
Mr. VAN ZANDT. Aboard.
Mr. ARENDS. Frankly, Mr. Chairman, before that certain fateful Tuesday last November I thought the American people would decide that I should occupy your chair and that what is now a minority of 14 members on this committee would be even more than your majority of 23. Why the people decided as they did I simply do not understand.
But, insofar as our Committee on Armed Services is concerned, we organize on political party lines solely because of necessity. deliberations and in our decisions, however, there is no center aisle. There is no minority and no majority. As a committee, vested with the responsibility for establishing, maintaining, and overseeing our national defense, we do not think in any terms except what is best for our country. That has been the long-established policy of committee, in which all of us take pride and which has gained for this committee the respect and confidence of every Member of Congress.
To be sure, we have our differences of opinion as to what should be done or not done. That is as it should be. That is a healthy condition. It is the clash of opinions that makes for sound laws.
We have our committee family arguments, so to speak. But when we go to the floor of the House with our recommendation those arguments have been settled and we usually go as a unit. At no time, under no circumstances, has this committee ever presented to the House any bill on what may be said to be on a partisanship basis.
Mr. Chairman, for many years I have served under you. It has been a great privilege to serve on this great.committee headed by such an outstanding chairman, the outstanding chairman in the House of Representatives, without question. (Applause.]
You have always been fair. From time to time we have differed on certain matters, but they have always been honest differences of opinion. And you have always recognized that there can be these honest differences.
I am sure I speak for every member of the minority when I pledge to you our fullest cooperation in discharging our grave responsibilities for the defense of our country against all enemies. [Applause.)
The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much, Mr. Arends. (Further applause.]
I appreciate the remarks.
I want to say that you were correct when you stated there is no majority or no minority in this committee. We are a team and we are working with one objective, and that is the welfare of this United States, our Government, and everything relating to its defense.
Now for the next order of business: I will recognize Mr. Kilday.
Mr. Kilday. Mr. Chairman, I offer a resolution for the adoption of the rules of the committee in 86th Congress and ask it be read by Mr. Smart.
The CHAIRMAN. Read the rules. Mr. SMART. Committee Resolution No. 1 on committee rules: Resolved, That the Committee on Armed Services, House of Representatives, adopt the following rules governing the procedure for the committee:
1. The Committee on Armed Services will meet every Tuesday at 10 a.m. and at such other times as may be fixed by the chairman or by the written request of a majority of the members of the committee.
2. A Tuesday meeting of the committee may be dispensed with by the chairman, but such action may be reversed by a written request of a majority of the members.
3. No general proxies may be used for any purpose. A member may vote by special proxy, which must be in writing, dated, signed by the member, and clearly identify the member to whom the proxy is given. The proxy must be filed with the chief counsel of the committee and must identify the particular bill or resolution and amendments hereto, motion, or other specific matter under consideration. A proxy may not be used for the purpose of establishing a quorum. A proxy may be used in subcommittee or in full committee.
4. No measure or recommendation shall be reported or tabled by the committee unless a majority of the committee is actually present.
5. A rollcall of the members may be had upon the request of three or more members.
6. The chairman shall have authority to refer all bills, resolutions, or other matters to any and all subcommittees or to the full committee. A subcommittee to which a bill, resolution, or other matter has been referred shall proceed with all possible diligence, if a majority of a quorum so directs, with appropriate inquiry and report its findings and recommendations to the full committee, but the chairman of the full committee shall have authority to discharge a subcommittee from consideration of any bill, resolution, or other matter referred thereto and have such measure or matter considered by the full committee. A majority vote of a quorum of a subcommittee will be required to report a bill, resolution, or other matter to the full committee or to table any such measure or matter in the subcommittee.
7. The chairman and the ranking minority member shall serve as ex officio members of all subcommittees and shall have the right to vote on all matters before the subcommittees.
8. Any member of the full committee may have the privilege of sitting with any subcommittee during its hearings or deliberations and participate therein but shall not have the authority to vote at such hearings or deliberations unless a member of such subcommittee.
9. Reports and recommendations of a subcommittee shall not be considered by the full committee until after the intervention of 3 calendar days from the time the report is submitted and printed hearings thereon are available to the members, except that this rule may be waived by a two-thirds vote of a quorum of the committee.
10. Bills will be taken up for hearing only when called by the chairman of the committee or subcommittee, or by a majority vote of a quorum of the committee or subcommittee. A majority of the committee or subcommittee shall constitute a quorum.
11. When a witness is before the committee, members of the committee may put questions to the witness only when they have been recognized by the chairman for that purpose.
12. Members of the committee will have not to exceed 10 minutes to question witnesses, except that this rule may be waived in the discretion of the chairman.
13. Questions put to witnesses before the committee shall be pertinent to the bill or other subject matter that may be before the committee for consideration.
14. The time any one member may address the committee on any bill, motion, or other matter under consideration by the committee will be limited to 10 minutes, and then only when he has been recognized by the chairman, except that this time limit may be waived in the discretion of the committee.
15. No private bill will be reported by the committee if there are two or more dissenting votes. Private bills so rejected by the committee will not be reconșidered during the same Congress unless new evidence sufficient to justify a new hearing has been presented to the Congress.
16. Except as otherwise specified, the rules of the House will govern the procedure of the committee when it is in session.
The CHAIRMAN. Members of the committee, are there any questions with reference to any one of these 16 different rules?
I may state that we adopted the same identical rules in the 85th Congress. They are practically the same rules that governed the Armed Services Committee during its 12 years' existence.
Mr. ARENDS. Mr. Chairman.
Mr. ARENDS. I just simply want to ask a question of Mr. Smart. If and when during the consideration of these resolutions we find something different from what has been in effect, I hope you will call it to our attention, if and when.
Mr. SMART. So far as I know, there is only one change in a subsequent resolution, which I will call to your attention and explain why.
Mr. ARENDS. Thank you.
The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the Resolution No. 1 offered by Mr. Kilday is agreed to by the committee, and the Resolution No. 1 becomes the rules that govern the competent business of the Armed Services Committee.
Mr. SMART. Mr. Chairman, may I interject for the benefit of the new members? When the new committee calendar is printed, these rules will be printed on the inside of the front sheet.
The CHAIRMAN. All right.
Mr. DURHAM. Mr. Chairman, I offer a resolution, and ask the chief counsel to read it.
Mr. SMART. Committee Resolution No. 2:
Resolved, That the following persons be and the same hereby elected to the professional staff of the Committee on Armed Services, House of Representatives, pursuant and subject to Public Law 601 (79th Cong.), to fill the following positions, respectively, it being understood that according to the provisions of this law the chairman will fix the basic salary per annum:
Robert W. Smart, chief counsel
Philip W. Kelleher, counsel Resolved, That the following persons be and the same are hereby elected to the clerical staff of the Committee on Armed Services, House of Representatives, pursuant to and subject to Public Law 601 (79th Cong.), and the rules with amendments thereto (84th Cong.), to fill the following positions respectively, it being understood that according to the provisions of this law, the chairman shall fix the basic salary per annum:
Oneta L. Stockstill, secretary
James A. Deakins, bill clerk The CHAIRMAN. Now, members of the committee, I think we are indeed fortunate in having such a staff. [Applause.)
This staff is recognized on Capitol Hill as being the most efficient staff of the Congress.
We are indeed fortunate in having such able staff assistants and such able secretaries.
Now I am going to ask that each one of you stand up.
Members of the committee, this is Mr. Smart, our chief counsel. Stand up, Mr. Smart. (Applause.) ]
Mr. Durham. Tell each one to give his years of experience.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Smart has been with the committee since its organization. The committee has been in existence since January of 1947.
Then Mr. Blandford, who has been with the staff (applause) since its organization.
Mr. Kelleher. (Applause.]
Now, we are reelecting Mr. Ducander, but I want to say to the members of the committee that Mr. Ducander, in all probability, will tender his resignation sometime during today or tomorrow, as he will head the staff of the House Science and Astronautics Committee. But until that has actually occurred, I am asking the committee to continue to designate him as a member of our staff.
We are all going to miss Mr. Ducander, because he is an outstanding staff member, and in all probability he will submit his resignation today or tomorrow and we will have to name someone in his place.
Now, Mr. Smart
Mr. DURHAM. Mr. Chairman, at this point I would like to ask that a resolution of appreciation be sent to him.
The CHAIRMAN. It will.
Now, Mr. Smart, ask our secretaries to come around, please, sir. I want all you secretaries to come on up here.
Mr. Smart, present the secretaries to the committee.
The Chairman. Members of the committee, this is our staff. I think they are exceedingly competent. I trust that they will be unanimously reelected.
Without objection, the staff as named in the Resolution No. 2 offered by Mr. Durham is reelected, and in accordance with the resolution I will fix their pay--that which they are drawing today.
Now we will excuse the staff—the clerks, so they can go back to their offices if they desire to do so.
Now the next order of business is a resolution by Mr. Kilday.
Mr. KILDAY. Mr. Chairman, I offer a resolution and ask it be read by the counsel.
Mr. SMART. Resolution No. 3:
Resolved, That the Armed Services Committee of the House of Representatives shall be organized to consist of three legislative subcommittees, to be known as Subcommittee No. 1, Subcommittee No. 2, and Subcommittee No. 3. Subcommittee No. 1 shall be composed of 13 members, 8 to be designated by the chairman to represent the majority, and 5 to be designated by the ranking minority member to represent the minority. Subcommittees Nos. 2 and 3 shall consist of 11 members each, 7 to represent the majority and 4 to represent the minority, to be designated by the chairman and the ranking minority member, respectively.
The subcommittees shall consider only such bills as are referred to them by the cbairman of the full committee.
The subcommittees shall meet on the call of the subcommittee chairmen.
There is only one change in this resolution over the previous resolution of the 85th Congress.
Previously, this resolution contained a provision that the chairman and the ranking member would be ex officio members of all committees. That is also reiterated in the rules of the committee, present and prior hereto, and there is no need to repeat it. It belongs in the rules.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, members of the committee, our committee last year, as we all know, was organized into three standing legislative subcommittees. We are doing the same thing. On account of the different ratio in the Congress, the ratio of the subcommittees is somewhat changed.
Now, without objection, Resolution No. 3 offered by Mr. Kilda y is agreed to. And after consultation with Mr. Arends, we name and designate the following members to constitute the three separate committees.
Mr. Smart, read them off, please, sir.
SUBCOMMITTEE No. 1
Mr. Kilday, Chairman
SUBCOMMITTEE No. 2
Mr. Durham, Chairman
SUBCOMMITTEE No. 3
Mr. Rivers, Chairman
Mr. Van Zandt
Mrs. St. George
Mr. Wampler The ChairMAN. Now members of the committee, these subcommittees are so arranged that every member on the majority serves on one, and only one, standing subcommittee. Thank you.
Now, the next order of business is a resolution to be offered by Mr. Hébert.
Mr. HÉBERT. Mr. Chairman, I offer a resolution and ask counsel to read it.
Mr. SMART. Resolution No. 4:
Resolved, That the House Committee on Armed Services shall have a special investigating subcommittee, the size and membership of which shall be determined by the chairman. The members chosen from the majority shall be selected by the chairman; and those from the minority shall be upon recommendation of the ranking minority member of the full committee; be it further