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CONTROL AND USE OF EXCESS PROPERTY AND RELATED FOREIGN ASSISTANCE PROBLEMS FOLLOWING U.S. MILITARY EXCLUSION FROM FRANCE1966–67

THURSDAY, JUNE 1, 1967

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON DONABLE PROPERTY
OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS,

Evreux, France. The subcommittee met at 11 a.m. in the office of the base commander, Evreux Air Force Base, Hon. John S. Monagan (subcommittee chairman) presiding

Subcommittee members present: Hon. John S. Monagan (chairman), and Hon. Margaret M. Heckler.

Subcommittee staff members present: Miles Q. Romney, counsel; Peter S. Barash, legal assistant.

Also present: Col. William H. Tarver, Evreux base commander; Col. John Regan, Air Force, assistant deputy, Military Liquidation Section, U.S. Embassy, Paris; Brig. Gen. Frank B. Clay, Chief of Staff, Ú.S. Army Communications Zone; Capt. Robert W. Donley, Evreux base civil engineers; Lt. Scott E. Larson, Evreux Air Base, Military Liquidation Section, officer in charge; M. Sgt. George A. Huskins, noncommissioned officer in charge, Military Liquidation Section, Evreux Air Base; Mr. Abraham Sidman, Chief of Merchandising, Foreign Excess Sales Office, Military Liquidation Section; Mr. Jack K. Woll, Director, Government Property Resources Division, Office of Procurement, Agency for International Development, Washington, D.C.; Mr. Paul Scordas, officer in charge, European Office of Government Property Resources Division, Office of Procurement, Agency for International Development; Mr. Robert M. Gilroy, audit manager, European branch of International Division, General Accounting Office, Frankfurt, Germany; and Col. James F. Dunn, Jr., USEUCOM (1-4), escort officer.

Colonel Regan. Mr. Congressman, I will introduce my people, if I may, and tell you what our responsibility is.

Mr. Monagan. Yes. We will open the hearing now. Please identify yourself.

STATEMENT OF COL. JOHN REGAN, ASSISTANT DEPUTY, MILITARY

LIQUIDATION SECTION, U.S. EMBASSY, PARIS, FRANCE; ACCOMPANIED BY COL. WILLIAM H. TARVER, EVREUX BASE COMMANDER; CAPT. ROBERT W. DONLEY, EVREUX BASE CIVIL ENGINEER; LT. SCOTT E. LARSON, OFFICER IN CHARGE, MILI

, . ; . GEORGE A. HUSKINS, NONCOMMISSIONED OFFICER IN CHARGE, MILITARY LIQUIDATION SECTION, EVREUX AIRBASE

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Colonel REGAN. I am Col. John Regan, the assistant deputy, Military Liquidation Section, for the Air Force. You know General Clay, sir, already. This is Mr. Sidman, chief of Merchandising, from the Foreign Excess Sales Office.

This is Colonel Tarver, our base commander here, representing USAFE Headquarters.

Lieutenant Larson is the Military Liquidation Section officer in charge at Evreux.

This is Captain Donley, a civil engineer with USAFE working for Colonel Tarver.

This is Sergeant Huskins of the Military Liquidation Section here at the Evreux Air Base.

Sir, we had planned today to take you on a trip around the facility, this being a base that has been turned over to the Military Liquidation Section. We had planned to take you through specific buildings that have been closed and have been locked with the idea we will either sell the U.S. related property on this base to the French Government or dispose of it through the Foreign Excess Sales Office or remove items from here and take the items out.

Mr. MONAGAN. We are interested in the organization and operation of the Military Liquidation Section and also of the Foreign Excess Sales Office. We are less interested in looking at buildings. We probably would like to see just one or two as examples, but they are mostly empty, are they not?

Colonel Regan. They are, sir. The ones we would show you would mostly be empty.

Mr. MONAGAN. We have about reached our quota of empty buildings.

I would like to ask you, Colonel, to give us a summary of the operations of MLS and its organization, where it stands in the governmental chart of administration and its relation to the Foreign Excess Sales Office, and when you have done that we will have questions. If you feel someone else should answer, any particular point, we shall be happy to have them do so.

Colonel REGAN. The Military Liquidation Section was established last February 24 to be in business by the first of March. It was established as an agency under the U.S. Embassy in Paris to get political guidance from the Embassy and military guidance from U'SCINCEUR, and directive No. 60–17 of March 4, 1967, issued by the Headquarters, United States European Command, established the terms of reference for the Military Liquidation Section.

The Military Liquidation Section is a joint organization commanded by the major general, U.S. Army, Gen. R. C. Kyser, who wears two hats. He is commander of the communications zone in Germany, and chief of this Military Liquidation Section. He used to be commander at Orleans before it closed on 1 April. So he knew the French situation very well and was the logical officer to place in MLS.

He has as his deputy chief, Brig. Gen. R. J. Harvey. General Harvey has two assistant deputies: I am Col. John Regan, his assistant Air Force deputy; and Col. L. M. Hoover is his assistant Army deputy.

We are organized, sir, as any military organization. I did not bring an organizational chart with me. Unfortunately, it is being used by Congressman Holifield today.

Mr. MONAGAN. We want a chart. We don't need it at this moment but we want one furnished for the record.

Colonel REGAN. Very well, sir.
(An organizational chart was furnished as follows:)

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